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From: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
To: peterz@infradead.org, mingo@kernel.org
Cc: rjw@rjwysocki.net, markgross@thegnar.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	morten.rasmussen@arm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [3/11] issue 3: No understanding of potential cpu capacity
Date: Tue,  7 Jan 2014 16:19:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1389111587-5923-4-git-send-email-morten.rasmussen@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1389111587-5923-1-git-send-email-morten.rasmussen@arm.com>

To minimize energy it may sometimes be better to put waking tasks on
partially loaded cpus instead of powering up more cpus (particularly if
it implies powering up a new cluster/group of cpus with associated
caches). To make that call, information about the potential spare cycles
on the busy cpus is required.

Currently, the CFS scheduler has no knowledge about frequency scaling.
Frequency scaling governors generally try to match the frequency to
the load, which means that the idle time has no absolute meaning. The
potential spare cpu capacity may be much higher than indicated by the
idle time if the cpu is running at a low P-state.

The energy trade-off may justify putting another task on a loaded cpu
even if it causes a change to a higher P-state to handle the extra load.
Related issues are frequency (and cpu micro architecture) invariant task
load and power topology information, which are both needed to enable the
scheduler for energy-aware task placement. This is covered in more
detail in issue 5.

The potential cpu capacity cannot be assumed to be constant as thermal
management may restrict the usage of high performance P-states
dynamically.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-07 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-07 16:19 [0/11][REPOST] Energy-aware scheduling use-cases and scheduler issues Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [1/11] issue 1: Missing power topology information in scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [2/11] issue 2: Energy-awareness for heterogeneous systems Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` Morten Rasmussen [this message]
2014-01-13 21:07   ` [3/11] issue 3: No understanding of potential cpu capacity Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-14 10:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-14 16:39     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-14 16:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [4/11] issue 4: Tracking idle states Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [5/11] issue 5: Frequency and uarch invariant task load Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-08 12:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-16 11:16     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [6/11] issue 6: Poor and non-deterministic performance on heterogeneous systems Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [7/11] use-case 1: Webbrowsing on Android Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [8/11] use-case 2: Audio playback " Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [9/11] use-case 3: Video " Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [10/11] use-case 4: Game " Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [11/11] system 1: Saving energy using DVFS Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-20 16:32   ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-21 12:14     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-21 12:31       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 16:49   ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 17:10     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 17:17       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 17:47         ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 18:03           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 19:15             ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-21 11:19               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 17:54       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 18:16         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 20:44           ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 18:25         ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-01-21 18:53           ` Kalle Jokiniemi
2014-01-20 18:12       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-21 11:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-21 12:20           ` Pavel Machek

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