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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"markgross@thegnar.org" <markgross@thegnar.org>,
	"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [3/11] issue 3: No understanding of potential cpu capacity
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:51:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140114165119.GJ7572@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140114163953.GF3000@e103034-lin>

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 04:39:54PM +0000, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> Responsiveness is still very important. It is quite hard to control. CFS
> doesn't consider latency. The only way to get the best responsiveness is
> to go for best performance which comes at a high cost in energy.

The big problem is that the normal unix task model doesn't cover his at
all -- nice isn't much of a knob.

There's ways in which you can adapt CFS to include such a measure
(search for the EEVDF patches), but I was kinda hoping that tasks that
really desire responsiveness could be made to use SCHED_DEADLINE or
such.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-14 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-07 16:19 [0/11][REPOST] Energy-aware scheduling use-cases and scheduler issues Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [1/11] issue 1: Missing power topology information in scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [2/11] issue 2: Energy-awareness for heterogeneous systems Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [3/11] issue 3: No understanding of potential cpu capacity Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-13 21:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-14 10:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-14 16:39     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-14 16:51       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [4/11] issue 4: Tracking idle states Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [5/11] issue 5: Frequency and uarch invariant task load Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-08 12:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-16 11:16     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [6/11] issue 6: Poor and non-deterministic performance on heterogeneous systems Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [7/11] use-case 1: Webbrowsing on Android Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [8/11] use-case 2: Audio playback " Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [9/11] use-case 3: Video " Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [10/11] use-case 4: Game " Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 16:19 ` [11/11] system 1: Saving energy using DVFS Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-20 16:32   ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-21 12:14     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-21 12:31       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 16:49   ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 17:10     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 17:17       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 17:47         ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 18:03           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 19:15             ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-21 11:19               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 17:54       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 18:16         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-20 20:44           ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-20 18:25         ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-01-21 18:53           ` Kalle Jokiniemi
2014-01-20 18:12       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-21 11:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-21 12:20           ` Pavel Machek

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