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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "paulus@samba.org" <paulus@samba.org>,
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	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/51] CPU hotplug: Provide lockless versions of callback registration functions
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:33:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1392136436.5612.131.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52F9ED11.5010800@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 09:27 +0000, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> On 02/11/2014 06:56 AM, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 03:34 +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> >  :
> [...]
> >>
> >> Also, since cpu_maps_update_begin/done() is like a super-set of
> >> get/put_online_cpus(), the former naturally protects the critical sections
> >> from concurrent hotplug operations.
> > 
> > get/put_online_cpus() is a reader-lock and concurrent executions are
> > allowed among the readers.  They won't be serialized until a cpu
> > online/offline operation begins.  By replacing this lock with
> > cpu_maps_update_begin/done(), we now serialize all readers.  Isn't that
> > too restrictive?
> 
> That's an excellent line of thought! It doesn't really hurt at the moment
> because the for_each_online_cpu() kind of loop that the initcalls of various
> subsystems run (before registering the notifier) are really tiny (typically
> the loop runs for just 1 cpu, the boot-cpu). In other words, this change
> represents a tiny increase in the critical section size; so its effect
> shouldn't be noticeable. (Note that in the old model, register_cpu_notifier()
> already takes the cpu_add_remove_lock, so they will be serialized at that
> point, and this is necessary).
> 
> However, going forward, when we start using more aggressive CPU onlining
> techniques during boot (such as parallel CPU hotplug), the issue you pointed
> out can become a real bottleneck, since for_each_online_cpu() can become
> quite a large loop, and hence explicit (and unnecessary) mutual exclusion
> will start hurting.
>  
> >  Can we fix the issue with CPU_POST_DEAD and continue
> > to use get_online_cpus()?
> > 
> 
> We don't want to get rid of CPU_POST_DEAD, so unfortunately we can't continue
> to use get_online_cpus(). However, I am thinking of introducing a Reader-Writer
> semaphore for this purpose, so that the registration routines can run in
> parallel most of the time. (Basically, the rw-semaphore is like
> get/put_online_cpus(), except that it protects the full hotplug critical section,
> including the CPU_POST_DEAD stage.)

I agree that introducing a reader-writer semaphore allows concurrent
executions.  Adding yet another hotplug lock is a bit unfortunate,
though.

This may be a dumb question, but can't we simply do this way?

        get_online_cpus();

        for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
                init_cpu(cpu);

        put_online_cpus();

        register_cpu_notifier(&foobar_cpu_notifier);

Thanks,
-Toshi
 



  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-11 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-05 22:04 [PATCH 00/51] CPU hotplug: Fix issues with callback registration Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:04 ` [PATCH 01/51] CPU hotplug: Provide lockless versions of callback registration functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 18:41   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-07 19:11     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-10  9:15       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 10:51         ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-10 11:11           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 12:05             ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-10 13:28               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 13:30           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 15:30           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-10 17:27           ` Balbir Singh
2014-02-11  1:26   ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-11  9:27     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-11 16:33       ` Toshi Kani [this message]
2014-02-11 17:18         ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-11 17:35           ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-11 19:20             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-11 20:51               ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-12  6:18                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-13 10:56                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-13 20:53                     ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-11 17:15       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-11 19:08         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-13 17:44           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-13 17:54             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-13 11:06     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-05 22:04 ` [PATCH 02/51] Doc/cpu-hotplug: Specify race-free way to register CPU hotplug callbacks Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 03/51] CPU hotplug, perf: Fix CPU hotplug callback registration Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 04/51] ia64, salinfo: Fix " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 05/51] ia64, palinfo: Fix CPU " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 06/51] ia64, topology: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 07/51] ia64, err-inject: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 08/51] arm, hw-breakpoint: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 10:57   ` Will Deacon
2014-02-06 11:25     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 11:39       ` Will Deacon
2014-02-06 11:38         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 09/51] arm, kvm: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 10/51] s390, cacheinfo: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 11/51] s390, smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 12/51] sparc, sysfs: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 13/51] powerpc, " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-14  6:47   ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 14/51] x86, msr: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 15/51] x86, cpuid: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 16/51] x86, vsyscall: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 18:50   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-11  6:58     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 17/51] x86, intel, uncore: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 18/51] x86, mce: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 19/51] x86, therm_throt.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 15:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-10 17:29     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 18:04       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 20/51] x86, amd, ibs: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 21/51] x86, intel, cacheinfo: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 22/51] x86, intel, rapl: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 23/51] x86, amd, uncore: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 24/51] x86, hpet: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 18:58   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-11  6:59     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 25/51] x86, pci, amd-bus: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 26/51] x86, oprofile, nmi: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 19:07   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-10 19:27     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-11  7:01       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 27/51] x86, kvm: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 28/51] arm64, hw_breakpoint.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 11:41   ` Will Deacon
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 29/51] arm64, debug-monitors: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 11:41   ` Will Deacon
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 30/51] powercap, intel-rapl: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 31/51] scsi, bnx2i: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 32/51] scsi, bnx2fc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 33/51] scsi, fcoe: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 34/51] zsmalloc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 35/51] acpi-cpufreq: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 12:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-02-06 16:05     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-07  4:09   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 36/51] drivers/base/topology.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 37/51] clocksource, dummy-timer: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 38/51] intel-idle: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 12:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-02-06 16:04     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 39/51] oprofile, nmi-timer: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 40/51] octeon, watchdog: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 41/51] thermal, x86-pkg-temp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 42/51] hwmon, coretemp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06  0:44   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-06  1:25     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-06 10:03       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 43/51] hwmon, via-cputemp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06  0:44   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-06  1:26     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 44/51] xen, balloon: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 45/51] md, raid5: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06  1:11   ` NeilBrown
2014-02-06 10:05     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 18:43       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 46/51] trace, ring-buffer: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 23:41   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 47/51] profile: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 48/51] mm, vmstat: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 15:35   ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-07  2:52   ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 49/51] mm, zswap: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 50/51] net/core/flow.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-07  4:39   ` David Miller
2014-02-07  5:19     ` David Miller
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 51/51] net/iucv/iucv.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-07  4:39   ` David Miller
2014-02-07  5:19     ` David Miller
2014-02-06  9:38 ` [PATCH 00/51] CPU hotplug: Fix issues with " Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-06 11:04   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 11:08     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 12:14     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-06 16:09       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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