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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: paulus@samba.org, oleg@redhat.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, tj@kernel.org, walken@google.com,
	linux@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/51] CPU hotplug: Fix issues with callback registration
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 21:39:58 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F3B3D6.10402@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140206121410.GA30676@in.ibm.com>

On 02/06/2014 05:44 PM, Gautham R Shenoy wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 04:34:33PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>
>>> CPU_POST_DEAD notification, is invoked with the cpu_hotplug.lock
>>> dropped. This was necessary for subsystems which would be waiting for
>>> some other thread to finish some work, and that other thread could
>>> invoke get_online_cpus(). If CPU_POST_DEAD notification were issued
>>> without dropping the cpu_hotplug.lock, this would lead to a deadlock
>>> as the notifier would be left stuck waiting for the thread which is
>>> blocked in get_online_cpus().
>>>
>>> It was introduced to ensure that multithreaded workqueues can safely
>>> use get_online_cpus() [https://lkml.org/lkml/2008/6/29/121].
>>>
>>> As of now, only two subsystems use this notification and workqueues is
>>> _not_ one of them!
>>>   * arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce.c:mce_cpu_callback()
>>>   * drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c:cpufreq_cpu_callback()
>>> I haven't yet audited these two cases to see if they really need this
>>> to be handled in CPU_POST_DEAD or if they can be handled in CPU_DEAD.
>>>
>>
>> Well, cpufreq had a legitimate need to use POST_DEAD to avoid the
>> deadlock described in commit 1aee40ac9c. However, there had been some
>> discussion some time ago about reorganizing the cpufreq's hotplug callback
>> so as to move most (but not all) of its work outside of POST_DEAD [1].
>> But as it stands, I don't think it would be easy to totally get rid of
>> cpufreq's dependence on the POST_DEAD notifier.
>>
> 
> Right, I see the reason why cpufreq needs POST_DEAD.
> 
>> Besides, I think its good to retain the POST_DEAD notifier option in
>> the CPU hotplug core code. It has come handy several times to fix hard
>> deadlock issues.
>>
> 
> I know. I am not denying the usefulness of POST_DEAD. But the fact
> that some of the CPU_* notifiers are invoked with the cpu_hotplug.lock
> held while CPU_POST_DEAD is invoked with the lock dropped looks a bit
> asymmetrical. At the moment I cannot think of a simpler alternative.
> 

Hmmm...

> 
>>> Also can we have an alternate API, something like
>>> cpu_hotplug_register_begin/end() instead of reusing
>>> cpu_maps_update_begin/end() for this usage, since in most of the
>>> patches that follow, we're not touching the any of the cpu_*_maps!
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the function names cpu_maps_update_begin/end() don't really suit
>> the kind of usage I'm proposing in this patchset, and hence is kind of
>> a misnomer. For better readability, I'm thinking of defining a macro
>> such as say, cpu_hotplug_notifier_lock()/unlock() that redirects to
>> cpu_maps_update_begin/end() respectively. That way, we can export just
>> those former symbols for use by modules, and thereby the code would look
>> more intuitive, like this:
>>
>> 	cpu_hotplug_notifier_lock();
>>
>> 	for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
>> 		init_cpu(cpu);
>>
>> 	/* This doesn't take the cpu_add_remove_lock */
>> 	__register_cpu_notifier(&foobar_cpu_notifier);
>>
>> 	cpu_hotplug_notifier_unlock();
>>
>> What do you think?
> 
> Sounds good.

Cool! If there are no objections, I'll use this naming for the APIs
and spin a v2 of the patchset soon.

Thank you!
 
Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat


      reply	other threads:[~2014-02-06 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-05 22:04 Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:04 ` [PATCH 01/51] CPU hotplug: Provide lockless versions of callback registration functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 18:41   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-07 19:11     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-10  9:15       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 10:51         ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-10 11:11           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 12:05             ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-10 13:28               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 13:30           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 15:30           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-10 17:27           ` Balbir Singh
2014-02-11  1:26   ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-11  9:27     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-11 16:33       ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-11 17:18         ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-11 17:35           ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-11 19:20             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-11 20:51               ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-12  6:18                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-13 10:56                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-13 20:53                     ` Toshi Kani
2014-02-11 17:15       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-11 19:08         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-13 17:44           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-13 17:54             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-13 11:06     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-05 22:04 ` [PATCH 02/51] Doc/cpu-hotplug: Specify race-free way to register CPU hotplug callbacks Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 03/51] CPU hotplug, perf: Fix CPU hotplug callback registration Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 04/51] ia64, salinfo: Fix " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 05/51] ia64, palinfo: Fix CPU " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 06/51] ia64, topology: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:05 ` [PATCH 07/51] ia64, err-inject: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 08/51] arm, hw-breakpoint: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 10:57   ` Will Deacon
2014-02-06 11:25     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 11:39       ` Will Deacon
2014-02-06 11:38         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 09/51] arm, kvm: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 10/51] s390, cacheinfo: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 11/51] s390, smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 12/51] sparc, sysfs: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:06 ` [PATCH 13/51] powerpc, " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-14  6:47   ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 14/51] x86, msr: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 15/51] x86, cpuid: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 16/51] x86, vsyscall: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 18:50   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-11  6:58     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 17/51] x86, intel, uncore: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:07 ` [PATCH 18/51] x86, mce: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 19/51] x86, therm_throt.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 15:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-10 17:29     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 18:04       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 20/51] x86, amd, ibs: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 21/51] x86, intel, cacheinfo: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 22/51] x86, intel, rapl: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 23/51] x86, amd, uncore: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 24/51] x86, hpet: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 18:58   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-11  6:59     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 25/51] x86, pci, amd-bus: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 26/51] x86, oprofile, nmi: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-10 19:07   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-10 19:27     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-11  7:01       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 27/51] x86, kvm: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 28/51] arm64, hw_breakpoint.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 11:41   ` Will Deacon
2014-02-05 22:09 ` [PATCH 29/51] arm64, debug-monitors: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 11:41   ` Will Deacon
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 30/51] powercap, intel-rapl: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 31/51] scsi, bnx2i: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 32/51] scsi, bnx2fc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 33/51] scsi, fcoe: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 34/51] zsmalloc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:10 ` [PATCH 35/51] acpi-cpufreq: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 12:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-02-06 16:05     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-07  4:09   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 36/51] drivers/base/topology.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 37/51] clocksource, dummy-timer: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 38/51] intel-idle: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 12:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-02-06 16:04     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 39/51] oprofile, nmi-timer: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 40/51] octeon, watchdog: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:11 ` [PATCH 41/51] thermal, x86-pkg-temp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 42/51] hwmon, coretemp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06  0:44   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-06  1:25     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-06 10:03       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 43/51] hwmon, via-cputemp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06  0:44   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-06  1:26     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 44/51] xen, balloon: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 45/51] md, raid5: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06  1:11   ` NeilBrown
2014-02-06 10:05     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 18:43       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-05 22:12 ` [PATCH 46/51] trace, ring-buffer: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 23:41   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 47/51] profile: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 48/51] mm, vmstat: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 15:35   ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-07  2:52   ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 49/51] mm, zswap: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 50/51] net/core/flow.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-07  4:39   ` David Miller
2014-02-07  5:19     ` David Miller
2014-02-05 22:13 ` [PATCH 51/51] net/iucv/iucv.c: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-07  4:39   ` David Miller
2014-02-07  5:19     ` David Miller
2014-02-06  9:38 ` [PATCH 00/51] CPU hotplug: Fix issues with " Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-06 11:04   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 11:08     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-02-06 12:14     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2014-02-06 16:09       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]

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