From: Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
jkaluza@redhat.com, lpoetter@redhat.com, kay@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:57:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1394733448.32465.249.camel@willson.li.ssimo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXWzja6W6y=p9MrtynGZMsrD5KQu0KBK6Bs1dQxnesv2A@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 10:55 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 19:12 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 18:21 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >> > On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 14:19 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Connection time is all we do and can care about.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You have not answered why.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We are going to disclose information to the peer based on policy that
> >> >> > depends on the cgroup the peer is part of. All we care for is who opened
> >> >> > the connection, if the peer wants to pass on that information after it
> >> >> > has obtained it there is nothing we can do, so connection time is all we
> >> >> > really care about.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you give a realistic example?
> >> >>
> >> >> I could say that I'd like to disclose information to processes based
> >> >> on their rlimits at the time they connected, but I don't think that
> >> >> would carry much weight.
> >> >
> >> > We want to be able to show different user's list from SSSD based on the
> >> > docker container that is asking for it.
> >> >
> >> > This works by having libnsss_sss.so from the containerized application
> >> > connect to an SSSD daemon running on the host or in another container.
> >> >
> >> > The only way to distinguish between containers "from the outside" is to
> >> > lookup the cgroup of the requesting process. It has a unique container
> >> > ID, and can therefore be mapped to the appropriate policy that will let
> >> > us decide which 'user domain' to serve to the container.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I can think of at least three other ways to do this.
> >>
> >> 1. Fix Docker to use user namespaces and use the uid of the requesting
> >> process via SCM_CREDENTIALS.
> >
> > This is not practical, I have no control on what UIDs will be used
> > within a container, and IIRC user namespaces have severe limitations
> > that may make them unusable in some situations. Forcing the use of user
> > namespaces on docker to satisfy my use case is not in my power.
>
> Except that Docker w/o userns is basically completely insecure unless
> selinux or apparmor is in use, so this may not matter.
>
> >
> >> 2. Docker is a container system, so use the "container" (aka
> >> namespace) APIs. There are probably several clever things that could
> >> be done with /proc/<pid>/ns.
> >
> > pid is racy, if it weren't I would simply go straight
> > to /proc/<pid>/cgroups ...
>
> How about:
>
> open("/proc/self/ns/ipc", O_RDONLY);
> send the result over SCM_RIGHTS?
This needs to work with existing clients, existing clients, don't do
this.
> >> 3. Given that Docker uses network namespaces, I assume that the socket
> >> connection between the two sssd instances either comes from Docker
> >> itself or uses socket inodes. In either case, the same mechanism
> >> should be usable for authentication.
> >
> > It is a unix socket, ie bind mounted on the container filesystem, not
> > sure network namespaces really come into the picture, and I do not know
> > of a racefree way of knowing what is the namespace of the peer at
> > connect time.
> > Is there a SO_PEER_NAMESPACE option ?
>
> So give each container its own unix socket. Problem solved, no?
>
> --Andy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-13 17:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-12 20:46 [PATCH 0/2][V2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP to get cgroup of peer Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 20:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] cgroup: Provide empty definition of task_cgroup_path() Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 20:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 20:58 ` Cong Wang
2014-03-13 13:48 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 21:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-12 21:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-12 21:16 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-12 21:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 1:17 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 1:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 1:43 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 2:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 14:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-14 23:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-03-13 17:51 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 17:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 17:57 ` Simo Sorce [this message]
2014-03-13 18:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 17:58 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 18:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 18:05 ` Tim Hockin
2014-03-13 19:53 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 19:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 20:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 20:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 20:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 21:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-14 23:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-03-13 18:02 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 14:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 14:55 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 15:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 16:33 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 17:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 17:55 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 17:56 ` Tim Hockin
2014-03-12 20:56 ` [PATCH 0/2][V2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP to get cgroup of peer Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-12 20:59 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-12 21:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-03-12 18:45 [PATCH 0/2] " Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 18:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
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