From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>
Cc: Philipp Hahn <pmhahn@pmhahn.de>,
Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Karolin Seeger <kseeger@samba.org>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Arvid Requate <requate@univention.de>,
Stefan Gohmann <gohmann@univention.de>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] af_unix: Guard against other == sk in unix_dgram_sendmsg
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 20:47:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1455310037.2801.61.camel@decadent.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87egchadk4.fsf@doppelsaurus.mobileactivedefense.com>
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On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 20:17 +0000, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> writes:
> > On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 13:25 +0000, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> > > Philipp Hahn <pmhahn@pmhahn.de> writes:
> > > > Hello Rainer,
> > > >
> > > > Am 11.02.2016 um 20:37 schrieb Rainer Weikusat:
> > > > > The unix_dgram_sendmsg routine use the following test
> > > > >
> > > > > if (unlikely(unix_peer(other) != sk && unix_recvq_full(other))) {
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > > This isn't correct as the> specified address could have been bound to
> > > > > the sending socket itself
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > After applying that patch at least my machine running the samba test no
> > > > longer crashes.
> > >
> > > There's a possible gotcha in there: Send-to-self used to be limited by
> > > the queue limit. But the rationale for that (IIRC) was that someone
> > > could keep using newly created sockets to queue ever more data to a
> > > single, unrelated receiver. I don't think this should apply when
> > > receiving and sending sockets are identical. But that's just my
> > > opinion. The other option would be to avoid the unix_state_double_lock
> > > for sk == other.
> >
> > Given that unix_state_double_lock() already handles sk == other, I'm
> > not sure why you think it needs to be avoided.
>
> Because the whole complication of restarting the operation after locking
> both sk and other because other had to be unlocked before calling
> unix_state_double_lock is useless for this case: As other == sk, there's
> no reason to drop the lock on it which guarantees that the result of all
> the earlier checks is still valid: If the -EAGAIN condition is not true,
> execution can just continue.
Well of course it's useless, but it's also harmless. If we really
wanted to optimise this we could also skip unlocking if other < sk.
> > > I'd be willing to change this accordingly if someone
> > > thinks the queue limit should apply to send-to-self.
> >
> > If we don't check the queue limit here, does anything else prevent the
> > queue growing to the point it's a DoS?
>
> The max_dgram_qlen limit exists specifically to prevent someone sending
> 'a lot' of messages to a socket unrelated to it by repeatedly creating a
> socket, sending as many messages as the send buffer size will allow,
> closing the socket, creating a new socket, ..., cf
>
> http://netdev.vger.kernel.narkive.com/tcZIFJeC/get-rid-of-proc-sys-net-unix-max-dgram-qlen#post4
> (first copy I found)
>
> This 'attack' will obviously not work very well when sending and
> receiving socket are identical.
It looked to me like the queue length was the only limit here, as I was
looking in vain for a charge to the receiving socket's memory.
However, to answer my own question, AF_UNIX skbs are always charged to
the sending socket (which is the same thing in this case, but still
affects where the buffer limit is applied).
Ben.
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Ben Hutchings
I say we take off; nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-12 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-02 16:25 Bug 4.1.16: self-detected stall in net/unix/? Philipp Hahn
2016-02-03 1:43 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-02-05 15:28 ` Philipp Hahn
2016-02-11 13:47 ` Philipp Hahn
2016-02-11 15:55 ` Rainer Weikusat
2016-02-11 17:03 ` Ben Hutchings
2016-02-11 17:40 ` Rainer Weikusat
2016-02-11 17:54 ` Rainer Weikusat
2016-02-11 18:31 ` Rainer Weikusat
2016-02-11 19:37 ` [PATCH net] af_unix: Guard against other == sk in unix_dgram_sendmsg Rainer Weikusat
2016-02-12 9:19 ` Philipp Hahn
2016-02-12 13:25 ` Rainer Weikusat
2016-02-12 19:54 ` Ben Hutchings
2016-02-12 20:17 ` Rainer Weikusat
2016-02-12 20:47 ` Ben Hutchings [this message]
2016-02-12 20:59 ` Rainer Weikusat
2016-02-16 17:54 ` David Miller
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