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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, pjt@google.com,  jikos@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linux-foundation.org, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	 mingo@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, luto@amacapital.net,
	 torvalds@linux-foundation.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
	keescook@google.com,  jpoimboe@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@zytor.com,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/pti] x86/retpoline: Fill return stack buffer on vmexit
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:20:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1516882849.30244.94.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180125120743.ey32gvl5mjam4r2s@pd.tnic>

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On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 13:07 +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 03:37:49AM -0800, tip-bot for David Woodhouse wrote:
> > 
> > +/*
> > + * On VMEXIT we must ensure that no RSB predictions learned in the guest
> > + * can be followed in the host, by overwriting the RSB completely. Both
> > + * retpoline and IBRS mitigations for Spectre v2 need this; only on future
> > + * CPUs with IBRS_ATT *might* it be avoided.
> > + */
> > +static inline void vmexit_fill_RSB(void)
> > +{
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_RETPOLINE
> > +	unsigned long loops = RSB_CLEAR_LOOPS / 2;
> > +
> > +	asm volatile (ANNOTATE_NOSPEC_ALTERNATIVE
> > +		      ALTERNATIVE("jmp 910f",
> > +				  __stringify(__FILL_RETURN_BUFFER(%0, RSB_CLEAR_LOOPS, %1)),
> > +				  X86_FEATURE_RETPOLINE)
> > +		      "910:"
> > +		      : "=&r" (loops), ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT
> > +		      : "r" (loops) : "memory" );
> > +#endif
> > +}
> Btw,
> 
> this thing is a real pain to backport to older kernels without breaking
> kABI (I know, I know, latter sucks but it is what it is) 

I haven't had lunch yet, so I don't feel queasy and I'm vaguely
interested... *why* does it break kABI?

> so I'm thinking we could simplify that thing regardless.
> 
> As it is, 41 bytes get replaced currently:
> 
> [    0.437005] apply_alternatives: feat: 7*32+12, old: (        (ptrval), len: 43), repl: (        (ptrval), len: 43), pad: 41
> [    0.438885]         (ptrval): old_insn: eb 29 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
> [    0.440001]         (ptrval): rpl_insn: 48 c7 c0 10 00 00 00 e8 07 00 00 00 f3 90 0f ae e8 eb f9 e8 07 00 00 00 f3 90 0f ae e8 eb f9 48 ff c8 75 e3 48 81 c4 00 01 00 00
> [    0.444002]         (ptrval): final_insn: 48 c7 c0 10 00 00 00 e8 07 00 00 00 f3 90 0f ae e8 eb f9 e8 07 00 00 00 f3 90 0f ae e8 eb f9 48 ff c8 75 e3 48 81 c4 00 01 00 00
> 
> Not that it doesn't work but the less bytes we replace, the better.
> 
> So it could be made to simply call two functions. The replacing then
> turns into:
> 
> [    0.438154] apply_alternatives: feat: 7*32+12, old: (ffffffff81060b60 len: 5), repl: (ffffffff82434692, len: 5), pad: 0
> [    0.440002] ffffffff81060b60: old_insn: e8 ab 73 01 00
> [    0.441003] ffffffff82434692: rpl_insn: e8 89 38 c4 fe
> [    0.441966] apply_alternatives: Fix CALL offset: 0x173bb, CALL 0xffffffff81077f20
> [    0.444002] ffffffff81060b60: final_insn: e8 bb 73 01 00
> 
> The "old_insn" above is:
> ffffffff81060b60:       e8 ab 73 01
> 00          callq  ffffffff81077f10 <__fill_rsb_nop>
> 
> and final_insn is
> ffffffff82434692:       e8 89 38 c4
> fe          callq  ffffffff81077f20 <__fill_rsb>
> 
> so both CALLs with immediates for which there's no speculation going
> on.
> 
> I had to add a new alternative_void_call() macro for that but that's
> straight-forward. Also, this causes objtool to segfault so Josh and I
> need to look at that first.
> 
> Other than that, it gets a lot simpler this way:
> 
> --
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/alternative.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/alternative.h
> index cf5961ca8677..a84863c1b7d3 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/alternative.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/alternative.h
> @@ -210,6 +210,11 @@ static inline int alternatives_text_reserved(void *start, void *end)
>  	asm volatile (ALTERNATIVE("call %P[old]", "call %P[new]", feature) \
>  		: output : [old] "i" (oldfunc), [new] "i" (newfunc), ## input)
>  
> +/* Like alternative_io, but for replacing a direct call with another one. */
> +#define alternative_void_call(oldfunc, newfunc, feature, input...)		\
> +	asm volatile (ALTERNATIVE("call %P[old]", "call %P[new]", feature)	\
> +		: : [old] "i" (oldfunc), [new] "i" (newfunc), ## input)

But you aren't doing the call at all in the other case, and
alternatives *always* handled the case where the first 'alternative'
instruction was a branch, didn't it?

So couldn't it just be alternative(nop, call __fill_rsb_func)?

But I still don't understand why it matters.

> +void __fill_rsb(void)
> +{
> +	unsigned long loops;
> +
> +	asm volatile (__stringify(__FILL_RETURN_BUFFER(%0, RSB_CLEAR_LOOPS, %1))
> +		      : "=r" (loops), ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT
> +		      : : "memory" );
> +}
> +#endif

The out-of-line function should be __clear_rsb() if it's using
RSB_CLEAR_LOOPS, and __fill_rsb() if it's using RSB_FILL_LOOPS. I think
we're only using one right now but Andi at least is posting patches
which use the other, as part of the Skylake clusterfuck.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-25 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-11 21:46 [PATCH v8 00/12] Retpoline: Avoid speculative indirect calls in kernel David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 01/12] objtool: Detect jumps to retpoline thunks David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:22   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 02/12] objtool: Allow alternatives to be ignored David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:22   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-18 19:09   ` [v8,02/12] " Guenter Roeck
2018-01-18 19:33     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-18 19:41       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-22 19:34         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-22 20:25           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-22 20:27             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-28 21:06             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-29  1:26               ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-29 17:15               ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-29 17:30                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-22 19:27       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 03/12] x86/retpoline: Add initial retpoline support David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:23   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:58   ` [PATCH v8 03/12] " Tom Lendacky
2018-01-12 10:28     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-12 14:02       ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-14 15:02   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-14 15:53     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-14 15:59       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 04/12] x86/spectre: Add boot time option to select Spectre v2 mitigation David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:23   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 22:40   ` [PATCH v8 04/12] " Borislav Petkov
2018-01-23 22:53     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 23:05       ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 22:55     ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-23 23:05       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-24  0:32         ` Kees Cook
2018-01-24  9:58           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-23 23:06       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-23 23:21       ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 23:24         ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-23 23:45           ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 23:49             ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-24  4:26               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-24  9:56                 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-24 13:58                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-24 14:03                     ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-24 14:22                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 05/12] x86/retpoline/crypto: Convert crypto assembler indirect jumps David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:24   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 06/12] x86/retpoline/entry: Convert entry " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:24   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 07/12] x86/retpoline/ftrace: Convert ftrace " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:25   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 08/12] x86/retpoline/hyperv: Convert " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:25   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 09/12] x86/retpoline/xen: Convert Xen hypercall " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:25   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 10/12] x86/retpoline/checksum32: Convert assembler " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:26   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 11/12] x86/retpoline/irq32: " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:26   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 12/12] x86/retpoline: Fill return stack buffer on vmexit David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:27   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:51   ` [PATCH v8 12/12] " Andi Kleen
2018-01-12 11:11     ` [PATCH v8.1 " David Woodhouse
2018-01-12 11:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-12 11:21         ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-12 11:37       ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-14 14:50         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-14 15:28           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-14 15:35         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 12:07         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 12:20           ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2018-01-25 12:45             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 15:10               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 15:51                 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 16:03                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:56                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 17:00                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 17:05                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-25 17:44                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 18:41                           ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-25 17:10                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-25 17:32                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 17:53                         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 18:04                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 18:32                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 19:07                             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 19:10                               ` Borislav Petkov

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