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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, x86@kernel.org,
	thomas.lendacky@amd.com, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 04/12] x86/spectre: Add boot time option to select Spectre v2 mitigation
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 23:40:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180123224014.dsbzps4hydt6h7ed@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1515707194-20531-5-git-send-email-dwmw@amazon.co.uk>

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 09:46:26PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Add a spectre_v2= option to select the mitigation used for the indirect
> branch speculation vulnerability.
> 
> Currently, the only option available is retpoline, in its various forms.
> This will be expanded to cover the new IBRS/IBPB microcode features.
> 
> The RETPOLINE_AMD feature relies on a serializing LFENCE for speculation
> control. For AMD hardware, only set RETPOLINE_AMD if LFENCE is a
> serializing instruction, which is indicated by the LFENCE_RDTSC feature.
> 
> [ tglx: Folded back the LFENCE/AMD fixes and reworked it so IBRS
>   	integration becomes simple ]

...

> +static inline bool retp_compiler(void)
> +{
> +	return __is_defined(RETPOLINE);
> +}

Btw, this came up today: do we have an idea how to detect objects built
with gcc which has retpoline support?

The only way I could think of is boot the respective kernel and stare at
dmesg:

[    0.064006] Spectre V2 mitigation: LFENCE not serializing. Switching to generic retpoline
[    0.068003] Spectre V2 mitigation: Vulnerable: Minimal generic ASM retpoline

and then deduce that it is not a retpoline-enabled compiler:

> +retpoline_auto:
> +	if (boot_cpu_data.x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_AMD) {
> +	retpoline_amd:
> +		if (!boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC)) {
> +			pr_err("LFENCE not serializing. Switching to generic retpoline\n");
> +			goto retpoline_generic;
> +		}
> +		mode = retp_compiler() ? SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE_AMD :
> +					 SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE_MINIMAL_AMD;
> +		setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RETPOLINE_AMD);
> +		setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RETPOLINE);
> +	} else {
> +	retpoline_generic:
> +		mode = retp_compiler() ? SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE_GENERIC :
> +					 SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE_MINIMAL;
					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

but that might not always be an option.

And it probably should be a more reliable method which we probably could
use to detect !retpolined modules too.

Hmmm.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Good mailing practices for 400: avoid top-posting and trim the reply.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-23 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-11 21:46 [PATCH v8 00/12] Retpoline: Avoid speculative indirect calls in kernel David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 01/12] objtool: Detect jumps to retpoline thunks David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:22   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 02/12] objtool: Allow alternatives to be ignored David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:22   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-18 19:09   ` [v8,02/12] " Guenter Roeck
2018-01-18 19:33     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-18 19:41       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-22 19:34         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-22 20:25           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-22 20:27             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-28 21:06             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-29  1:26               ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-29 17:15               ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-29 17:30                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-22 19:27       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 03/12] x86/retpoline: Add initial retpoline support David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:23   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:58   ` [PATCH v8 03/12] " Tom Lendacky
2018-01-12 10:28     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-12 14:02       ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-14 15:02   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-14 15:53     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-14 15:59       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 04/12] x86/spectre: Add boot time option to select Spectre v2 mitigation David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:23   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 22:40   ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2018-01-23 22:53     ` [PATCH v8 04/12] " David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 23:05       ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 22:55     ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-23 23:05       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-24  0:32         ` Kees Cook
2018-01-24  9:58           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-23 23:06       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-23 23:21       ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 23:24         ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-23 23:45           ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 23:49             ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-24  4:26               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-24  9:56                 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-24 13:58                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-24 14:03                     ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-24 14:22                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 05/12] x86/retpoline/crypto: Convert crypto assembler indirect jumps David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:24   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 06/12] x86/retpoline/entry: Convert entry " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:24   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 07/12] x86/retpoline/ftrace: Convert ftrace " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:25   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 08/12] x86/retpoline/hyperv: Convert " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:25   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 09/12] x86/retpoline/xen: Convert Xen hypercall " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:25   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 10/12] x86/retpoline/checksum32: Convert assembler " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:26   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 11/12] x86/retpoline/irq32: " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:26   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 12/12] x86/retpoline: Fill return stack buffer on vmexit David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:27   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:51   ` [PATCH v8 12/12] " Andi Kleen
2018-01-12 11:11     ` [PATCH v8.1 " David Woodhouse
2018-01-12 11:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-12 11:21         ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-12 11:37       ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-14 14:50         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-14 15:28           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-14 15:35         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 12:07         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 12:20           ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 12:45             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 15:10               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 15:51                 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 16:03                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:56                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 17:00                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 17:05                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-25 17:44                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 18:41                           ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-25 17:10                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-25 17:32                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 17:53                         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 18:04                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 18:32                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 19:07                             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 19:10                               ` Borislav Petkov

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