mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
Cc: konrad.wilk@oracle.com, luto@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	asit.k.mallick@intel.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	karahmed@amazon.de, jun.nakajima@intel.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, ashok.raj@intel.com,
	daniel.kiper@oracle.com, arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com,  pbonzini@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
	 kvm@vger.kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: vmx: Allow direct access to MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:46:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1517215563.6624.118.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b9a1ec2-5ebd-4624-a825-3f31db5cefb5@default>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2066 bytes --]

On Sun, 2018-01-28 at 16:39 -0800, Liran Alon wrote:
> 
> Windows use IBRS and Microsoft don't have any plans to switch to retpoline.
> Running a Windows guest should be a pretty common use-case no?
> 
> In addition, your handle of the first WRMSR intercept could be different.
> It could signal you to start doing the following:
> 1. Disable intercept on SPEC_CTRL MSR.
> 2. On VMEntry, Write vCPU SPEC_CTRL value into physical MSR.
> 3. On VMExit, read physical MSR into vCPU SPEC_CTRL value.
> (And if IBRS is used at host, also set physical SPEC_CTRL MSR here to 1)
> 
> That way, you will both have fastest option as long as guest don't use IBRS
> and also won't have the 3% performance hit compared to Konrad's proposal.
> 
> Am I missing something?

Reads from the SPEC_CTRL MSR are strangely slow. I suspect a large part
of the 3% speedup you observe is because in the above, the vmentry path
doesn't need to *read* the host's value and store it; the host is
expected to restore it for itself anyway?

I'd actually quite like to repeat the benchmark on the new fixed
microcode, if anyone has it yet, to see if that read/swap slowness is
still quite as excessive. I'm certainly not ruling this out, but I'm
just a little wary of premature optimisation, and I'd like to make sure
we have everything *else* in the KVM patches right first.

The fact that the save-and-restrict macros I have in the tip of my
working tree at the moment are horrid and causing 0-day nastygrams,
probably doesn't help persuade me to favour the approach ;)

... hm, the CPU actually has separate MSR save/restore lists for
entry/exit, doesn't it? Is there any way to sanely make use of that and
do the restoration manually on vmentry but let it be automatic on
vmexit, by having it *only* in the guest's MSR-store area to be saved
on exit and restored on exit, but *not* in the host's MSR-store area?

Reading the code and comparing with the SDM, I can't see where we're
ever setting VM_EXIT_MSR_STORE_{ADDR,COUNT} except in the nested
case...

[-- Attachment #2: smime.p7s --]
[-- Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature, Size: 5213 bytes --]

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-29  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-29  0:39 Liran Alon
2018-01-29  8:46 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2018-01-29  9:43   ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-29 10:37     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 10:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-29 17:27       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-29 10:47   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-29 17:31   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-29 21:49     ` Daniel Kiper
2018-01-29 23:01       ` Jim Mattson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-01-28 19:29 KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-28 20:21 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-28 20:39   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-28 20:40   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-28 20:44     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-28 20:53       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-28 20:56         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-28 21:41       ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-28 21:47         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29  1:06   ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-29 18:43 ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-29 19:01   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 19:04     ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-29 19:10       ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-29 19:16   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-29 19:27     ` Jim Mattson

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1517215563.6624.118.camel@infradead.org \
    --to=dwmw2@infradead.org \
    --cc=aarcange@redhat.com \
    --cc=ak@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com \
    --cc=ashok.raj@intel.com \
    --cc=asit.k.mallick@intel.com \
    --cc=dan.j.williams@intel.com \
    --cc=daniel.kiper@oracle.com \
    --cc=dave.hansen@intel.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=jun.nakajima@intel.com \
    --cc=karahmed@amazon.de \
    --cc=konrad.wilk@oracle.com \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=liran.alon@oracle.com \
    --cc=luto@kernel.org \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®