From: KarimAllah Ahmed <karahmed@amazon.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
Cc: <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>, <luto@kernel.org>, <tglx@linutronix.de>,
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
<asit.k.mallick@intel.com>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
<karahmed@amazon.de>, <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
<dan.j.williams@intel.com>, <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
<daniel.kiper@oracle.com>, <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
<tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <ak@linux.intel.com>,
<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: vmx: Allow direct access to MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 10:43:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8bed4a5a-afc6-1569-d9bf-a3e1103e92f8@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1517215563.6624.118.camel@infradead.org>
On 01/29/2018 09:46 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-01-28 at 16:39 -0800, Liran Alon wrote:
>>
>> Windows use IBRS and Microsoft don't have any plans to switch to retpoline.
>> Running a Windows guest should be a pretty common use-case no?
>>
>> In addition, your handle of the first WRMSR intercept could be different.
>> It could signal you to start doing the following:
>> 1. Disable intercept on SPEC_CTRL MSR.
>> 2. On VMEntry, Write vCPU SPEC_CTRL value into physical MSR.
>> 3. On VMExit, read physical MSR into vCPU SPEC_CTRL value.
>> (And if IBRS is used at host, also set physical SPEC_CTRL MSR here to 1)
>>
>> That way, you will both have fastest option as long as guest don't use IBRS
>> and also won't have the 3% performance hit compared to Konrad's proposal.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>
> Reads from the SPEC_CTRL MSR are strangely slow. I suspect a large part
> of the 3% speedup you observe is because in the above, the vmentry path
> doesn't need to *read* the host's value and store it; the host is
> expected to restore it for itself anyway?
>
> I'd actually quite like to repeat the benchmark on the new fixed
> microcode, if anyone has it yet, to see if that read/swap slowness is
> still quite as excessive. I'm certainly not ruling this out, but I'm
> just a little wary of premature optimisation, and I'd like to make sure
> we have everything *else* in the KVM patches right first.
>
> The fact that the save-and-restrict macros I have in the tip of my
> working tree at the moment are horrid and causing 0-day nastygrams,
> probably doesn't help persuade me to favour the approach ;)
>
> ... hm, the CPU actually has separate MSR save/restore lists for
> entry/exit, doesn't it? Is there any way to sanely make use of that and
> do the restoration manually on vmentry but let it be automatic on
> vmexit, by having it *only* in the guest's MSR-store area to be saved
> on exit and restored on exit, but *not* in the host's MSR-store area?
>
> Reading the code and comparing with the SDM, I can't see where we're
> ever setting VM_EXIT_MSR_STORE_{ADDR,COUNT} except in the nested
> case...
Hmmm ... you are probably right! I think all users of this interface
always trap + update save area and never passthrough the MSR. That is
why only LOAD is needed *so far*.
Okay, let me sort this out in v3 then.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-29 9:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-29 0:39 Liran Alon
2018-01-29 8:46 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 9:43 ` KarimAllah Ahmed [this message]
2018-01-29 10:37 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 10:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-29 17:27 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-29 10:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-29 17:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-29 21:49 ` Daniel Kiper
2018-01-29 23:01 ` Jim Mattson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-01-28 19:29 KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-28 20:21 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-28 20:39 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-28 20:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-28 20:44 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-28 20:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-28 20:56 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-28 21:41 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-28 21:47 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 1:06 ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-29 18:43 ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-29 19:01 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 19:04 ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-29 19:10 ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-29 19:16 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-29 19:27 ` Jim Mattson
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