From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: Marc Perkel <mperkel@yahoo.com>
Cc: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
Michael Tharp <gxti@partiallystapled.com>,
alan <alan@clueserver.org>,
LKML Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:42:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <15627.1187235765@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:48:15 PDT." <291255.29775.qm@web52505.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:48:15 PDT, Marc Perkel said:
> > Consider the rules:
> >
> > peter '*a*' can create
> > peter '*b*' cannot create
> >
> > Peter tries to create 'foo-ab-bar' - is he allowed
> > to or not?
> >
>
> First - I'm proposing a concept, not writing the
> implementation of the concept. You are asking what
> happens when someone write conflicting rules. That
> depends on how you implement it. Conflicting rules can
> cause unpredictable results.
Good. Go work out what the rules have to be in order for the system to
behave sanely. "Hand-waving concept" doesn't get anywhere. Fully fleshed-out
concepts sometimes do - once they sprout code to actually implement them.
> The point is that one can choose any rule system they
> want and the rules applies to the names of the files
> and the permissions of the users.
No, you *can't* choose any rule system you want - some rule systems are
unworkable because they create security exposures (usually of the
"ln /etc/passwd /tmp/foo" variety, but sometimes race conditions as well).
> > For an exersize, either write a program or do by
> > hand:
> All you would have to do is create a set of rules that
> emulates the current rules and you would have the same
> results.
Good. Go create it. Let us know when you're done. Remember - not only do
you need to have it generate the same results, you need to find a way to
implement it so that it's somewhere near the same speed as the current code.
If it's 10 times slower, it's not going to fly no matter *how* "cool" it is.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-16 3:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-14 22:45 Marc Perkel
2007-08-14 22:51 ` alan
2007-08-15 13:02 ` Michael Tharp
2007-08-15 13:30 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-08-15 13:53 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 15:14 ` Michael Tharp
2007-08-15 16:36 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 17:17 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 17:30 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 18:22 ` Craig Ruff
2007-08-15 20:35 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-16 11:27 ` Helge Hafting
2007-08-15 16:02 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 16:57 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-15 17:09 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 17:22 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 17:34 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-18 23:27 ` Alan
2007-08-18 23:26 ` Alan
2007-08-19 2:03 ` david
2007-08-19 2:57 ` Al Viro
2007-09-01 23:20 ` Oleg Verych
2007-08-15 19:20 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-08-16 23:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-15 16:58 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 17:19 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 17:37 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 17:59 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 19:26 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-08-15 20:11 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 20:44 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 21:04 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-08-16 11:42 ` Helge Hafting
2007-08-16 12:09 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-08-15 17:34 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-15 17:53 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 18:05 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 18:14 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 20:20 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 20:43 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-15 20:50 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 21:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-15 22:48 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-16 3:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2007-08-15 20:38 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-15 21:17 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 22:14 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-16 4:44 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-16 15:09 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-16 15:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-16 17:28 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-16 17:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-16 22:03 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-16 23:17 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-17 4:24 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-17 4:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-17 15:19 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-17 15:39 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-17 19:01 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-18 5:48 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-18 16:45 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-18 18:19 ` Al Viro
2007-08-19 4:07 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-20 7:05 ` Nix
2007-08-20 7:47 ` Brennan Ashton
2007-08-20 11:18 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-20 13:32 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-08-20 15:25 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-08-20 15:26 ` Helge Hafting
2007-08-20 19:52 ` Nix
2007-08-20 16:21 ` [OT] " Randy Dunlap
2007-08-20 16:20 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-08-20 14:29 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-20 15:13 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-08-20 14:24 ` Phillip Susi
2007-08-15 22:40 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 17:54 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 17:02 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 17:30 ` Michael Tharp
2007-08-15 17:51 ` Marc Perkel
2007-08-15 20:02 ` Yakov Lerner
2007-08-15 7:49 Tim Tassonis
2007-08-15 18:23 Brian Wheeler
2007-08-20 11:54 Tim Tassonis
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