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From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	werner@sgi.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	davej@redhat.com,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: AGP bogosities
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:34:02 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16946.18186.86274.528426@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1110583375.4822.88.camel@eeyore>

Bjorn Helgaas writes:

> I still don't quite understand this.  If the host bridge is not a
> PCI device, what PCI device contains the AGP capability that controls
> the host bridge?  I assume you're saying that you are required to

The AGP spec shows an example northbridge implementation that has the
AGP interface circuitry as a PCI-to-PCI bridge.  You don't have to do
it that way, but in any case you need some sort of PCI device to
represent the target (host) end of the AGP link.

> have TWO PCI devices that have the AGP capability, one for the AGP
> device and one for the bridge.

Yes, exactly.

> HP boxes certainly don't have that (zx6000 sample below).  I guess
> it wouldn't be the first time we deviated from a spec ;-)
> 
> Can you point me to the relevant section?

In the AGP 2.0 spec, the clearest statement I can find is in section
6.1.5, on page 248, where it says "Configuration registers are used by
the operating system to initialize A.G.P. features.  These features
must be supported by both A.G.P. master and target devices in the
following registers.", followed by a description of various PCI config
space registers.  In the context, "configuration registers" means
registers in the config space of a PCI device.  The AGP 3.0 spec is a
delta from the AGP 2.0 spec and doesn't revoke that requirement
anywhere that I could see.

Paul.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-12  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-11  1:24 Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11  2:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11  2:11   ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11  2:18     ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11  2:38       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11  4:02         ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11  4:30           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11 16:39             ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11 17:59               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-03-11 18:04                 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-12  3:27                   ` Mike Werner
2005-03-12  3:58                     ` Dave Jones
2005-03-13  3:13                       ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-13  4:08                         ` Dave Jones
2005-03-13  4:28                           ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 22:43                 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11 23:22                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-03-12  0:12                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-12  1:34                     ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2005-03-11 18:04   ` James Simmons
2005-03-11 18:08     ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11  2:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11  2:12 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11  2:18   ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11  2:23     ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11  2:40       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11  2:49         ` Dave Jones
2005-03-12 20:49           ` Greg KH
2005-03-11  2:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 22:18       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2005-03-11 22:26         ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 22:33           ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-03-11 23:52             ` Gene Heskett
2005-03-11 22:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 23:09           ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-12  0:06             ` Gene Heskett
2005-03-14  8:17           ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14  8:27             ` David Lang
2005-03-14  8:37               ` dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities] Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 16:55                 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-14 17:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 17:17                   ` Dave Jones
2005-03-14 17:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-14 17:27                     ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-14 17:27                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-15 20:18                     ` Greg Stark
2005-03-14 18:12                   ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-14 19:07                     ` Lee Revell
2005-03-20  6:44                       ` David Lang
2005-03-23  0:37                       ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-23  0:53                         ` Lee Revell
2005-03-23  1:13                           ` Dave Jones
2005-03-23  1:29                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-23  8:21                             ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-03-23 16:14                               ` Dave Jones
2005-03-23 16:49                                 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-03-23 17:17                                   ` Dave Jones
2005-03-23 14:10                             ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-23  8:19                           ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-03-30  9:45                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-23  0:53                         ` Zan Lynx
2005-03-23  0:55                         ` Grant Coady
2005-03-14 21:55                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 22:08                     ` David Lang
2005-03-15  0:02                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-11 22:42         ` AGP bogosities Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-11 22:47           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-12 17:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-12 22:26           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2005-03-12 22:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11  2:35   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11  2:43     ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11  2:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 22:11 ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-11 22:18   ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 22:46     ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-11 23:16       ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-03-11 23:17         ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-11 23:23           ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-03-11 23:24             ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-12  4:33 Ken Ryan

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