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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, containers@lists.osdl.org,
	hch@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:22:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17966.1177438970@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070424173329.GA364@tv-sign.ru>

Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> wrote:

> Sure, I'll grep for cancel_delayed_work(). But unless I missed something,
> this change should be completely transparent for all users. Otherwise, it
> is buggy.

I guess you will have to make sure that cancel_delayed_work() is always
followed by a flush of the workqueue, otherwise you might get this situation:

	CPU 0				CPU 1
	===============================	=======================
					<timer expires>
	cancel_delayed_work(x) == 0	-->delayed_work_timer_fn(x)
	kfree(x);			-->do_IRQ()
	y = kmalloc(); // reuses x
					<--do_IRQ()
					__queue_work(x)
	--- OOPS ---

That's my main concern.  If you are certain that can't happen, then fair
enough.

Note that although you can call cancel_delayed_work() from within a work item
handler, you can't then follow it up with a flush as it's very likely to
deadlock.

> > Because calling schedule_delayed_work() is a waste of CPU if the timer
> > expiry handler is currently running at this time as *that* is going to
> > also schedule the delayed work item.
> 
> Yes. But otoh, try_to_del_timer_sync() is a waste of CPU compared to
> del_timer(), when the timer is not pending.

I suppose that's true.  As previously stated, my main objection to del_timer()
is the fact that it doesn't tell you if the timer expiry function is still
running.

Can you show me a patch illustrating exactly how you want to change
cancel_delayed_work()?  I can't remember whether you've done so already, but
if you have, I can't find it.  Is it basically this?:

 static inline int cancel_delayed_work(struct delayed_work *work)
 {
 	int ret;

-	ret = del_timer_sync(&work->timer);
+	ret = del_timer(&work->timer);
 	if (ret)
 		work_release(&work->work);
 	return ret;
 }

I was thinking this situation might be a problem:

	CPU 0				CPU 1
	===============================	=======================
					<timer expires>
	cancel_delayed_work(x) == 0	-->delayed_work_timer_fn(x)
	schedule_delayed_work(x,0)	-->do_IRQ()
	<keventd scheduled>
	x->work()
					<--do_IRQ()
					__queue_work(x)

But it won't, will it?

> > Ah, but the timer routine may try to set the work item pending flag
> > *after* the work_pending() check you have here.
> 
> No, delayed_work_timer_fn() doesn't set the _PENDING flag.

Good point.  I don't think that's a problem because cancel_delayed_work()
won't clear the pending flag if it didn't remove a timer.

> First, this is very unlikely event, delayed_work_timer_fn() is very fast
> unless interrupted.

Yeah, I guess so.


Okay, you've convinced me, I think - provided you consider the case I
outlinded at the top of this email.

If you give me a patch to alter cancel_delayed_work(), I'll substitute it for
mine and use that that instead.  Dave Miller will just have to live with that
patch being there:-)

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-24 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 218+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-19  6:52 Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 19:13     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:26       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 13:23     ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-22 19:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 19:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:19     ` Scott Murray
2007-04-27 22:07     ` Scott Murray
2007-05-04 11:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-07 18:18         ` Scott Murray
2007-05-09 23:24           ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-10  0:00             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-05-10 18:29             ` Scott Murray
2007-05-10 19:30               ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 12:48   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 13:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  1:54   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  0:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 21:37       ` James Bottomley
2007-04-22 21:48         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  0:30   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  8:19   ` Frank Pavlic
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-30 10:41     ` Swen Schillig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  6:23     ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-20 14:21       ` Robin Holt
2007-04-21 19:53         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 17:11     ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:36       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 19:03       ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-27 17:41     ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 18:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-27 20:12         ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 20:33           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 15:22             ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:16               ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:44                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-17 13:44                   ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-26 20:00   ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:47   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 20:50     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24  1:38       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  2:08         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  2:42           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  3:20             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  4:34               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  4:51                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:00               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  5:43                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:58                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  6:17                   ` SOME STUFF ABOUT REISER4 lkml777
2007-04-24 17:26                     ` Eric M. Hopper
2007-04-24  7:46                 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24 17:24         ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24  5:55     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  8:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24 17:35     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 22:46     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  8:53     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:30   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  8:51     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:24   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 10:20     ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 12:37       ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-21 16:11         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-04-22 19:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23  3:12       ` [PATCH] kthread: Spontaneous exit support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 11:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:58           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 17:45             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 18:09               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 18:20               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:08           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-24 13:34             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:20   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:12   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 15:20     ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-22 20:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:04   ` Simon Horman
2007-04-19 22:59     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:52   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:21   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 19:20     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:19       ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 21:25         ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-21 19:04           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:40         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 22:04           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-21 19:47             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:22   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:26   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:47   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  6:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-20  6:48       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  9:37         ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  0:47   ` Neil Brown
2007-05-01  6:13     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:32 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: Convert to " David Howells
2007-04-19  9:32 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " David Howells
2007-04-19 13:05   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 14:18   ` Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream David Howells
2007-04-19 15:50     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:18     ` David Howells
2007-04-19 19:14       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 20:14     ` David Miller
2007-04-20  1:15       ` Herbert Xu
2007-04-20  8:02     ` David Howells
2007-04-20  8:58       ` David Miller
2007-04-20 10:41       ` David Howells
2007-04-20 18:38         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:28           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23  8:32           ` David Howells
2007-04-23 17:11             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:37             ` David Howells
2007-04-24 14:22               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 15:51               ` David Howells
2007-04-24 16:40                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 16:58                 ` David Howells
2007-04-24 17:33                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 18:22                   ` David Howells [this message]
2007-04-24 19:34                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25  8:10                     ` David Howells
2007-04-25 10:41                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25 10:45                       ` David Howells
2007-04-25 13:48       ` David Howells
2007-04-19 23:05   ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: Convert to kthread API Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  7:47   ` David Howells
2007-04-22 12:15 ` Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Christoph Hellwig

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