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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: "<Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>, <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 00:13:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1hcqxysti.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17974.36380.681276.553949@notabene.brown> (Neil Brown's message of "Tue, 1 May 2007 10:47:24 +1000")

Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> writes:

> On Thursday April 19, ebiederm@xmission.com wrote:
>> From: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>> 
>> Currently md_thread calls allow_signal so it can receive a
>> SIGKILL but then does nothing with it except flush the
>> sigkill so that it not can use an interruptible sleep.
>> 
>> This whole dance is silly so remove the unnecessary
>> and broken signal handling logic.
>
> (sorry of the delay in replying)
>
> You missed some related code which should help you see that it is -
> maybe - not completely 'silly' (though I confess it might be slightly
> broken).
> In md_check_recovery:
>
> 	if (signal_pending(current)) {
> 		if (mddev->pers->sync_request) {
> 			printk(KERN_INFO "md: %s in immediate safe mode\n",
> 			       mdname(mddev));
> 			mddev->safemode = 2;
> 		}
> 		flush_signals(current);
> 	}

Thanks.

> The idea is that alt-sysrq-K will send SIGKILL to all processes
> including the md support threads, which will cause them to enter
> "immediate safe mode" so that the metadata will be marked clean
> immediately at every opportunity.  That way you can use alt-sysrq:
>   sync,unmount,kill,reboot
> and be fairly sure that you md array will be shut down cleanly.
>
> I'd be just as happy to link this into Unmount (aka
> do_emergency_remount), but that doesn't seem at all straight forward,
> and in any case should be done before the current code is ripped out.
>
> While we do have a reboot_notifier which tries to stop all arrays,
> I've never been comfortable with that.  A reboot really should just
> reboot... 
>
> What I would REALLY like is for the block device to know whether it is
> open read-only or read-write.  Then I could mark it clean when it
> becomes read-only as would happen when do_emergency_remount remounts
> it read-only.
>
> I might see how hard that would be...

My goal to get signals to kernel threads out of the user space interface
especially for non-privileged processes, so everything that we do with
kernel threads can just be an unimportant implementation detail to user
space.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-01  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 218+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-19  6:52 Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 19:13     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:26       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 13:23     ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-22 19:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 19:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:19     ` Scott Murray
2007-04-27 22:07     ` Scott Murray
2007-05-04 11:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-07 18:18         ` Scott Murray
2007-05-09 23:24           ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-10  0:00             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-05-10 18:29             ` Scott Murray
2007-05-10 19:30               ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 12:48   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 13:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  1:54   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  0:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 21:37       ` James Bottomley
2007-04-22 21:48         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  0:30   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  8:19   ` Frank Pavlic
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-30 10:41     ` Swen Schillig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  6:23     ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-20 14:21       ` Robin Holt
2007-04-21 19:53         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 17:11     ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:36       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 19:03       ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-27 17:41     ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 18:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-27 20:12         ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 20:33           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 15:22             ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:16               ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:44                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-17 13:44                   ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-26 20:00   ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:47   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 20:50     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24  1:38       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  2:08         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  2:42           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  3:20             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  4:34               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  4:51                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:00               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  5:43                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:58                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  6:17                   ` SOME STUFF ABOUT REISER4 lkml777
2007-04-24 17:26                     ` Eric M. Hopper
2007-04-24  7:46                 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24 17:24         ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24  5:55     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  8:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24 17:35     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 22:46     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  8:53     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:30   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  8:51     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:24   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 10:20     ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 12:37       ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-21 16:11         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-04-22 19:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23  3:12       ` [PATCH] kthread: Spontaneous exit support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 11:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:58           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 17:45             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 18:09               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 18:20               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:08           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-24 13:34             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:20   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:12   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 15:20     ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-22 20:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:04   ` Simon Horman
2007-04-19 22:59     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:52   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:21   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 19:20     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:19       ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 21:25         ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-21 19:04           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:40         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 22:04           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-21 19:47             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:22   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:26   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:47   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  6:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-20  6:48       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  9:37         ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  0:47   ` Neil Brown
2007-05-01  6:13     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:32 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: Convert to " David Howells
2007-04-19  9:32 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " David Howells
2007-04-19 13:05   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 14:18   ` Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream David Howells
2007-04-19 15:50     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:18     ` David Howells
2007-04-19 19:14       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 20:14     ` David Miller
2007-04-20  1:15       ` Herbert Xu
2007-04-20  8:02     ` David Howells
2007-04-20  8:58       ` David Miller
2007-04-20 10:41       ` David Howells
2007-04-20 18:38         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:28           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23  8:32           ` David Howells
2007-04-23 17:11             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:37             ` David Howells
2007-04-24 14:22               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 15:51               ` David Howells
2007-04-24 16:40                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 16:58                 ` David Howells
2007-04-24 17:33                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 18:22                   ` David Howells
2007-04-24 19:34                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25  8:10                     ` David Howells
2007-04-25 10:41                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25 10:45                       ` David Howells
2007-04-25 13:48       ` David Howells
2007-04-19 23:05   ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: Convert to kthread API Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  7:47   ` David Howells
2007-04-22 12:15 ` Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Christoph Hellwig

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