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From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>, John Denker <jsd@av8n.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: random(4) changes
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:01:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1925716.MouNeQh8Ln@positron.chronox.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160425193531.GC13997@two.firstfloor.org>

Am Montag, 25. April 2016, 12:35:32 schrieb Andi Kleen:

Hi Andi,

> > > > If it is the latter, can you explain where the scalability issue comes
> > > > in?
> > > 
> > > A single pool which is locked/written to does not scale. Larger systems
> > > need multiple pools
> > 
> > That would imply that even when you have a system with 1000 CPUs, you want
> > to have a large amount of random numbers. Is this the use case?
> 
> That is right. Large systems do more work than small systems.
> If the system is for example handling SSL connections it needs
> more random numbers to handle more connections.
> 
> BTW the problems happen long before 1000 CPUs, more like 12-18 cores
> competing.
> 
> Also today's large system is tomorrow's small systems. The
> systems affected are actually not that large anymore.
> 
> The original numbers
> 
> Without patchkit:
> 
> 1 node:  1x
> 2 nodes: 0.75x
> 3 nodes: 0.55x
> 4 nodes: 0.42x

I have changed the LRNG now such that a multiple instantiation of the 
secondary DRBG can be implemented with very limited amount of code.

Thus, the proposal you have for the nonblocking_pool can be adapted.

Yet I have not implemented such duplication as I first would like to see 
whether the initial proposal of my LRNG is considered acceptable.

Ciao
Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-26 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-22 22:27 Sandy Harris
2016-04-23  7:52 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-24  2:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-24  8:03   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26  3:07     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-26 11:04       ` Herbert Xu
2016-04-26 20:47         ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-27  4:23           ` Herbert Xu
2016-04-26 18:24       ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 18:44       ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-26 18:55         ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 19:41           ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-25 16:06 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-25 17:25   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-25 17:38     ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-25 17:56       ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-25 19:35         ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-26 12:01           ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2016-04-27 17:47           ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26  1:00   ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-26 12:42   ` Sandy Harris
     [not found] <5279345.Lo7T948V4W@positron.chronox.de>
2016-04-26 20:43 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-26 21:01   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-27  0:23     ` George Spelvin
2016-04-27 18:03       ` George Spelvin
2016-04-28 20:15       ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29  7:29         ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29  8:02           ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29  9:34             ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29  9:53               ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 11:04                 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 11:18                   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 18:02                     ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 18:41                       ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 20:08                         ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 21:54                           ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 22:32                             ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29  0:47       ` George Spelvin

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