From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>, John Denker <jsd@av8n.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: random(4) changes
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:01:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1925716.MouNeQh8Ln@positron.chronox.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160425193531.GC13997@two.firstfloor.org>
Am Montag, 25. April 2016, 12:35:32 schrieb Andi Kleen:
Hi Andi,
> > > > If it is the latter, can you explain where the scalability issue comes
> > > > in?
> > >
> > > A single pool which is locked/written to does not scale. Larger systems
> > > need multiple pools
> >
> > That would imply that even when you have a system with 1000 CPUs, you want
> > to have a large amount of random numbers. Is this the use case?
>
> That is right. Large systems do more work than small systems.
> If the system is for example handling SSL connections it needs
> more random numbers to handle more connections.
>
> BTW the problems happen long before 1000 CPUs, more like 12-18 cores
> competing.
>
> Also today's large system is tomorrow's small systems. The
> systems affected are actually not that large anymore.
>
> The original numbers
>
> Without patchkit:
>
> 1 node: 1x
> 2 nodes: 0.75x
> 3 nodes: 0.55x
> 4 nodes: 0.42x
I have changed the LRNG now such that a multiple instantiation of the
secondary DRBG can be implemented with very limited amount of code.
Thus, the proposal you have for the nonblocking_pool can be adapted.
Yet I have not implemented such duplication as I first would like to see
whether the initial proposal of my LRNG is considered acceptable.
Ciao
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-26 12:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-22 22:27 Sandy Harris
2016-04-23 7:52 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-24 2:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-24 8:03 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 3:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-26 11:04 ` Herbert Xu
2016-04-26 20:47 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-27 4:23 ` Herbert Xu
2016-04-26 18:24 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 18:44 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-26 18:55 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 19:41 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-25 16:06 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-25 17:25 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-25 17:38 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-25 17:56 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-25 19:35 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-26 12:01 ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2016-04-27 17:47 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 1:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-26 12:42 ` Sandy Harris
[not found] <5279345.Lo7T948V4W@positron.chronox.de>
2016-04-26 20:43 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-26 21:01 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-27 0:23 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-27 18:03 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-28 20:15 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 7:29 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 8:02 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 9:34 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 9:53 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 11:04 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 11:18 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 18:02 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 18:41 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 20:08 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 21:54 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 22:32 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 0:47 ` George Spelvin
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