From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>, John Denker <jsd@av8n.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: random(4) changes
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:56:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7735834.PWhNOHfhKX@positron.chronox.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160425173825.GB13997@two.firstfloor.org>
Am Montag, 25. April 2016, 10:38:25 schrieb Andi Kleen:
Hi Andi,
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 07:25:55PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> > Am Montag, 25. April 2016, 09:06:03 schrieb Andi Kleen:
> >
> > Hi Andi,
> >
> > > Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > There is also the third problem of horrible scalability of /dev/random
> > > output on larger systems, for which patches are getting ignored.
> > >
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/10/716
> > >
> > > Ignoring problems does not make them go away.
> >
> > I have seen your patches, but I am not fully sure I understand the root
> > cause. is the noise source handling the issue or the random number
> > generation the issue?
>
> Noise source handling is fine, the problem is the global locking on the
> entropy pools when generating random numbers.
>
> > If it is the latter, can you explain where the scalability issue comes in?
>
> A single pool which is locked/written to does not scale. Larger systems
> need multiple pools
That would imply that even when you have a system with 1000 CPUs, you want to
have a large amount of random numbers. Is this the use case?
Or is simply the presence of 1000 CPUs an issue for "normal" loads on
/dev/urandom?
>
> -Andi
Ciao
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-25 17:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-22 22:27 Sandy Harris
2016-04-23 7:52 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-24 2:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-24 8:03 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 3:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-26 11:04 ` Herbert Xu
2016-04-26 20:47 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-27 4:23 ` Herbert Xu
2016-04-26 18:24 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 18:44 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-26 18:55 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 19:41 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-25 16:06 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-25 17:25 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-25 17:38 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-25 17:56 ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2016-04-25 19:35 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-26 12:01 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-27 17:47 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-26 1:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-26 12:42 ` Sandy Harris
[not found] <5279345.Lo7T948V4W@positron.chronox.de>
2016-04-26 20:43 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-26 21:01 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-27 0:23 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-27 18:03 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-28 20:15 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 7:29 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 8:02 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 9:34 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 9:53 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 11:04 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 11:18 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 18:02 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 18:41 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 20:08 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 21:54 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-04-29 22:32 ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 0:47 ` George Spelvin
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