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From: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v19 5/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Activate the RMM
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2026 14:55:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <195cdfe4-a55a-453f-9c34-620738eca244@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70d47475-e26e-40e1-b409-b0c16aecb8c0@arm.com>

On 28/09/2026 10:08, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> On 25/09/2026 18:50, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>> Hi Catalin
>>
>> On 25/09/2026 17:42, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 04:02:24PM +0100, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>>>> On 25/09/2026 13:17, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 02:51:59PM +0100, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>>>>>> From: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Activate the RMM after the basic configuration. This is a memory
>>>>>> transferring stateful operation.
>>>>>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +    ret = rmi_sro_memxfer_cmd(sro, GFP_KERNEL, 
>>>>>> SMC_RMI_RMM_ACTIVATE);
>>>>>> +    if (ret) {
>>>>>> +        pr_err("RMM activate failed (%d)\n", ret);
>>>>>> +        ret = ret < 0 ? ret : -ENXIO;
>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +    return ret;
>>>>>
>>>>> It was raised earlier this year [1] but I'm not sure it concluded. How
>>>>> do we handle kexec and kdump? I think RMI_RMM_DEACTIVATE only succeeds
>>>>> if nothing is delegated, so it would need all realms torn down 
>>>>> first. If
>>>>> that's not feasible, we could at least block (non-crash) kexec like 
>>>>> pKVM
>>>>> does.
>>>>
>>>> You are right, we can't DEACTIVATE until all granules have been
>>>> "undelegated" back. Not just the Realms, but also the GPTs/Tracking
>>>> Metadata etc would need to be reclaimed (when we get to support
>>>> dynamic GPT/Tracking metadata). For now, we should block the kexec.
>>>
>>> Looking more into this (and the memory hotplug story), I find it strange
>>> that simply having RME and a valid RMM imposes all these restrictions
>>> even if we never run or intend to run a realm. How common will
>>> RME-capable systems with RMM firmware be that are not used for CoCo? Or
>>> do we expect only CoCo systems to have capable/configured firmware (RME
>>> may be present in silicon anyway)?
>>
>> There is another angle to this :
>>
>> RMM may act as a TSM (as in the Trusted Security Manager in PCI TDISP)
>> context and provide setting up IDE connection between the RootPort/
>> EndPoint. So, the trigger point for the RMM activation would become 
>> the "First Delegate" request.
>>
>> Running an RMM just for the "TSM" functionality is not ideal.
>> In the absence of RMM, Linux can act as the baremetal TSM. But when the
>> RMM is present, we must use the RMM as the TSM, especially if the
>> Device will be assigned to a Realm.
>>
>> FEAT_RME capable systems don't need to enable RMM unless they want to
>> run CoCo guests.
>>
>>>
>>> Ideally we'd defer the RMM configuration and activation (and the
>>> tracking/GPT checks) until we first attempt to start a realm, keeping
>>> only the RMI_VERSION/FEATURES probing at boot. Not sure how feasible
>>> this is (memory is more fragmented by then for any contiguous donation).
>>> If we manage it, kexec and memory hotplug just work on hosts that never
>>> start a realm.
>>>
>>> The next best thing for kexec is to tear down the realms, undelegate
>>> the granules and deactivate the RMM before invoking kexec (with kdump
>>> that's harder as we likely no longer have a controlled shutdown).
>>
>> This is quite complicated, when we get the dynamic metadata support,
>> especially with the self-describing L1GPT and Tracking metadata.
>> But not impossible.
> 
> Looking at this again we could :
> 
> a. If the user triggers a graceful kexec reboot, i.e, without forced,
>     we should be able to deactivate the RMM. Since all processes are
>     killed, Realm VMs must be off and all granules reclaimed.
>     When we get to dynamic GPT/Tracking, we should additionally
>     reclaim them back.
> b. For forced reboot kexec, I don't think there is a safe way.
> 
> We have two options here :
> 
> 1. Disable kexec reboot (allowing kexec kdump) when the RMM is active
>     at kexec_load. I prefer this for now, and we could goto 2 eventually.
> 
> 2. Back out from machine_kexec() if the RMM was still active.
>     This allows (a) above.


I have the following patch (tested , but tf-RMM doesn't support 
DEACTIVATE yet), which correctly deactivates the RMM (well
at least tries).

---8>---


firmware: rmm: Deactivate RMM at reboot

Deactivate the RMM at system shutdown. This would allow a normal kexec 
to cleanup the state and boot into a new kernel gracefully.

Kdump kernels need not worry about an active RMM, as long as it can
handle the GPF on access to the Delegated granules.

Signed-off-by: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
---
  arch/arm64/kernel/machine_kexec.c |  2 +
  drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/rmi.c    | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
  include/linux/arm-rmi-cmds.h      | 10 +++++
  3 files changed, 73 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/machine_kexec.c 
b/arch/arm64/kernel/machine_kexec.c
index 8f9bc2327dc85..8f16f92a5d389 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/kernel/machine_kexec.c
+++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/machine_kexec.c
@@ -6,6 +6,7 @@
   * Copyright (C) Huawei Futurewei Technologies.
   */

+#include <linux/arm-rmi-cmds.h>
  #include <linux/interrupt.h>
  #include <linux/irq.h>
  #include <linux/kernel.h>
@@ -171,6 +172,7 @@ void machine_kexec(struct kimage *kimage)
  	BUG_ON(!in_kexec_crash && (stuck_cpus || (num_online_cpus() > 1)));
  	WARN(in_kexec_crash && (stuck_cpus || smp_crash_stop_failed()),
  		"Some CPUs may be stale, kdump will be unreliable.\n");
+	WARN(!in_kexec_crash && is_rmm_active(), "RMM is active, kexec will be 
unreliable.\n");

  	pr_info("Bye!\n");

diff --git a/drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/rmi.c b/drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/rmi.c
index 51343e9d5c2a9..5b695f3155b1c 100644
--- a/drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/rmi.c
+++ b/drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/rmi.c
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@
  #include <linux/memblock.h>
  #include <linux/memory.h>
  #include <linux/arm-rmi-cmds.h>
+#include <linux/reboot.h>
  #include <linux/slab.h>

  #include <asm/memory.h>
@@ -15,6 +16,13 @@
  /* RMM v2.0 defines RmiFeatureRegister0 to RmiFeatureRegister4. */
  static unsigned long rmi_feat_reg_cache[5] __ro_after_init;
  static bool arm64_rmi_is_available;
+static bool arm64_rmm_active;
+
+bool is_rmm_active(void)
+{
+	return arm64_rmm_active;
+}
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(is_rmm_active);

  /**
   * rmi_granule_range_undelegate() - Undelegate a range of granules
@@ -1017,6 +1025,53 @@ bool is_rmi_available(void)
  }
  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(is_rmi_available);

+static int rmi_rmm_deactivate(struct rmi_sro_state *sro)
+{
+	int ret;
+
+	if (!READ_ONCE(arm64_rmm_active))
+		return 0;
+
+	ret = WARN_ON(rmi_sro_memxfer_cmd(sro, GFP_KERNEL, 
SMC_RMI_RMM_DEACTIVATE));
+	if (ret)
+		return ret;
+
+	WRITE_ONCE(arm64_rmm_active, false);
+	WRITE_ONCE(arm64_rmi_is_available, false);
+
+	return ret;
+}
+
+static int rmi_reboot_notifier(struct notifier_block *nb,
+			       unsigned long action, void *data)
+{
+	int ret;
+
+	switch (action) {
+	case SYS_RESTART:
+	case SYS_HALT:
+	case SYS_POWER_OFF:
+		break;
+	default:
+		return NOTIFY_DONE;
+	}
+
+	struct rmi_sro_state *sro __free(kfree) = kmalloc_obj(*sro);
+
+	if (!sro)
+		return -ENOMEM;
+
+	ret = rmi_rmm_deactivate(sro);
+	if (ret)
+		pr_emerg("RMM Deactivation failed: %d\n", ret);
+
+	return NOTIFY_DONE;
+}
+
+static struct notifier_block rmi_reboot_nb = {
+	.notifier_call = rmi_reboot_notifier,
+};
+
  static int rmi_init_memory(void)
  {
  	int ret;
@@ -1025,7 +1080,10 @@ static int rmi_init_memory(void)
  	if (ret)
  		return ret;

-	return register_memory_notifier(&rmi_memory_nb);
+	ret = register_memory_notifier(&rmi_memory_nb);
+	if (ret)
+		return ret;
+	return register_reboot_notifier(&rmi_reboot_nb);
  }

  static int __init arm64_init_rmi(void)
@@ -1057,10 +1115,11 @@ static int __init arm64_init_rmi(void)
  		return ret;
  	}

+	WRITE_ONCE(arm64_rmm_active, true);
  	ret = rmi_init_memory();
  	if (ret) {
  		/* Deactivate the RMM */
-		WARN_ON(rmi_sro_memxfer_cmd(sro, GFP_KERNEL, SMC_RMI_RMM_DEACTIVATE));
+		(void)rmi_rmm_deactivate(sro);
  		return ret;
  	}

diff --git a/include/linux/arm-rmi-cmds.h b/include/linux/arm-rmi-cmds.h
index 8fd90914c161a..5d31a4104ce72 100644
--- a/include/linux/arm-rmi-cmds.h
+++ b/include/linux/arm-rmi-cmds.h
@@ -88,6 +88,16 @@ long rmi_sro_execute(struct arm_smccc_1_2_regs *regs);
  	__ret;								\
  })

+
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARM_RMM_RMI
+bool is_rmm_active(void);
+#else
+static inline bool is_rmm_active(void)
+{
+	return false;
+}
+#endif	/* CONFIG_ARM_RMM_RMI */
+
  /**
   * rmi_rtt_data_map_init() - Create a mapping at protected IPA, 
copying contents
   *			     from a given non-secure source granule.
-- 
2.43.0



  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-28 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-24 13:51 [PATCH v19 0/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add RMM v2.0 base RMI support Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 13:51 ` [PATCH v19 1/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 16:57   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-24 22:15     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 17:05   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-09-24 22:49     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 13:51 ` [PATCH v19 2/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Check for RMI support at init Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 16:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-25  0:00   ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-25  8:51     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-25  5:43   ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-25  8:50     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-25 10:42   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-25 15:23     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-27  9:29       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-28  8:05         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 13:51 ` [PATCH v19 3/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Configure the RMM with the host's page size Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 17:03   ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]     ` <d4b768e5-c942-43cf-aea2-c266a8bab353@oss.qualcomm.com>
2026-09-25 14:56       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-26 13:38         ` Venkata Rao Kakani
2026-09-25  0:03   ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-24 13:51 ` [PATCH v19 4/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add support for SRO Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 19:13   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-24 23:10     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-25  5:24   ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-25 11:50   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-25 15:11     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-28  9:28   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-28 10:13     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-28 17:28       ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-24 13:51 ` [PATCH v19 5/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Activate the RMM Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-25 12:17   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-25 15:02     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-25 15:34       ` Alper Gun
2026-09-25 16:42       ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-25 17:50         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-28  9:08           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-28 13:55             ` Suzuki K Poulose [this message]
2026-09-28 18:01               ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-28 18:28                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 13:52 ` [PATCH v19 6/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Ensure the RMM has GPT entries for memory Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 21:38   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-24 23:30     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-25 15:30       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-25  0:07   ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-24 13:52 ` [PATCH v19 7/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add wrappers for Realm related RMI commands Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-25 11:56   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-25  6:29 ` [PATCH v19 0/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add RMM v2.0 base RMI support Gavin Shan
2026-09-25  9:03   ` Suzuki K Poulose

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