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From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, paulmck@kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	bigeasy@linutronix.de, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, frederic@kernel.org, efault@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] sched: warn for high latency with TIF_NEED_RESCHED_LAZY
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:11:18 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19a072e1-cfd8-43e1-9e8e-aa1950b20533@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iktli7o6.fsf@oracle.com>



On 10/22/24 00:51, Ankur Arora wrote:
> 
> Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com> writes:
> 
>> On 10/9/24 22:24, Ankur Arora wrote:
>>> resched_latency_warn() now also warns if TIF_NEED_RESCHED_LAZY is set
>>> without rescheduling for more than the latency_warn_ms period.
>>>
>>
>> I am bit confused here. Why do we need to warn if LAZY is set for a long time?
>>
>> If lazy set, the subsequent tick, it would be set to upgraded to NEED_RESCHED.
>>
>> Since the value of latency_warn_ms=100ms, that means even on system with HZ=100,
>> that means 10 ticks before that warning would be printed no?
> 
> That's a fair point. However, the assumption there is that there are no
> bugs in upgrade on tick or that there's no situation in which the tick
> is off for a prolonged period.
> 

ok.

But if tick is off, then ticks_without_resched isn't incremented either. 
IIUC, this check is for situation when NR is set and tick is on.

> Ankur
> 
>> IIUC, the changelog c006fac556e40 ("sched: Warn on long periods of pending
>> need_resched") has the concern of need_resched set but if it is non-preemptible
>> kernel it would spend a lot of time in kernel mode. In that case print a
>> warning.
>>
>> If someone enables Lazy, that means it is preemptible and probably this whole
>> notion of resched_latency_warn doesn't apply to lazy. Please correct me if i am
>> not understanding this correctly.
>>
>>> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
>>> Cc: Peter Ziljstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>>> Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
>>> Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
>>> ---
>>>    kernel/sched/core.c  | 2 +-
>>>    kernel/sched/debug.c | 7 +++++--
>>>    2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
>>> index 694bfcf153cb..1229766b704e 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
>>> @@ -5571,7 +5571,7 @@ static u64 cpu_resched_latency(struct rq *rq)
>>>    	if (sysctl_resched_latency_warn_once && warned_once)
>>>    		return 0;
>>>    -	if (!need_resched() || !latency_warn_ms)
>>> +	if ((!need_resched() && !tif_need_resched_lazy()) || !latency_warn_ms)
>>>    		return 0;
>>>      	if (system_state == SYSTEM_BOOTING)
>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/debug.c b/kernel/sched/debug.c
>>> index 9abcc6ead11b..f0d551ba64bb 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/sched/debug.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/debug.c
>>> @@ -1293,9 +1293,12 @@ void proc_sched_set_task(struct task_struct *p)
>>>    void resched_latency_warn(int cpu, u64 latency)
>>>    {
>>>    	static DEFINE_RATELIMIT_STATE(latency_check_ratelimit, 60 * 60 * HZ, 1);
>>> +	char *nr;
>>> +
>>> +	nr = tif_need_resched() ? "need_resched" : "need_resched_lazy";
>>>      	WARN(__ratelimit(&latency_check_ratelimit),
>>> -	     "sched: CPU %d need_resched set for > %llu ns (%d ticks) "
>>> +	     "sched: CPU %d %s set for > %llu ns (%d ticks) "
>>>    	     "without schedule\n",
>>> -	     cpu, latency, cpu_rq(cpu)->ticks_without_resched);
>>> +	     cpu, nr, latency, cpu_rq(cpu)->ticks_without_resched);
>>>    }
> 
> 
> --
> ankur


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-22  5:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-09 16:54 [PATCH 0/7] Lazy preemption bits Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 1/7] sched: warn for high latency with TIF_NEED_RESCHED_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  6:37   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 18:19     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-13  9:44   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-13  9:54   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-16  9:36   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-10-21 19:21     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-22  5:41       ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 2/7] rcu: limit PREEMPT_RCU configurations Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 18:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-09 18:24     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 20:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-09 21:16         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10  7:58           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 14:19             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10  6:32       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10  8:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10  9:13           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 10:03             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 10:26               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 10:44                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 14:29                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11  8:18                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-11 13:59                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 14:43                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-11 15:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 11:22                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-15 22:13                               ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-17  8:04                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-17 22:50                                   ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-18 17:43                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-18 19:18                                       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-18 23:24                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-19  1:07                                           ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-19  4:30                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 23:11                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-17  7:07                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-18 17:38                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-21 11:27                                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-21 16:48                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-21 19:20                                         ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-22 23:49                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22 14:09                                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-22 23:54                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-23  6:58                                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 17:35             ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11  7:58               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-15 23:01                 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 17:42           ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 3/7] rcu: fix header guard for rcu_all_qs() Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  6:41   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10  8:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 14:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 4/7] rcu: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPT_COUNT=y Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 19:05   ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 14:37     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10 17:59       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  6:50   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 17:56     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11  7:52       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 5/7] rcu: rename PREEMPT_AUTO to PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 18:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-09 18:52     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 6/7] osnoise: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPTION=y Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  6:53   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 14:39     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10 17:50     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11  7:36       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-14 20:14         ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 7/7] powerpc: add support for PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  7:22   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 18:10     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11 18:35       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-10-12 22:42         ` Michael Ellerman

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