From: "Manu Abraham" <abraham.manu@gmail.com>
To: "Roland Dreier" <rdreier@cisco.com>
Cc: "Jeff Garzik" <jeff@garzik.org>, "Greg KH" <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development!
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:45:59 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a297b360701301545o2608edf5i618b9ff26bf1b4a3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adaps8wnlfl.fsf@cisco.com>
On 1/31/07, Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com> wrote:
> To me, it's clear that historically the community hasn't delivered on
> this. So I don't like promising something that we haven't been able
> to follow through on in the past. If a vendor takes Greg's offer, and
> then the community, for whatever reason, fails to deliver on
> everything, then that makes us all (including me!) look bad just
> because of Greg's hyperbolic promises.
I can't talk for every subsystem, but what we have under the DVB
subsystem, for the devices that we have access to specs we have well
behaved drivers, many have even complimented that they work much
better than their windows counterparts.
I have even received mails from some vendors that some of the Linux
drivers behave better than their own windows drivers.
We can't count on reverse eng 'd drivers (or even drivers written with
a lot of guess work due to lack of specifications), they don't behave
nice. So at least if the vendors were to provide some specs in that
direction, it would help to make those drivers better.
So i think to a certain as to what i can say, probably you are wrong.
regards,
manu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-30 23:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-30 1:29 Greg KH
2007-01-30 2:19 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-30 2:23 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 7:33 ` Bauke Jan Douma
2007-01-30 19:15 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-30 10:52 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-30 19:14 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-30 19:46 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:23 ` Diego Calleja
2007-01-30 20:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:13 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-01-31 21:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-31 22:04 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-01-30 13:45 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-30 19:12 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:40 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-30 19:47 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 17:30 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 19:11 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 22:21 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 19:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-01-30 19:55 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 17:45 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 17:55 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 18:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 18:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2007-01-30 19:02 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 19:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 19:10 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:29 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 19:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 21:38 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 21:47 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 22:00 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:19 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:39 ` John W. Linville
2007-01-30 22:23 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 13:59 ` Erik Mouw
2007-02-01 14:45 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 22:39 ` Erik Mouw
2007-02-01 15:46 ` Michael Buesch
2007-02-01 16:42 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 17:48 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-30 22:14 ` Dave Airlie
2007-01-30 22:24 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-30 22:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 13:34 ` David Hollis
2007-01-31 17:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 18:37 ` Bob Copeland
2007-02-01 5:52 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 20:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-01-31 17:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 17:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:58 ` alan
2007-01-31 18:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 19:17 ` alan
2007-01-30 22:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:15 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:19 ` Matthieu CASTET
2007-01-30 22:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 4:02 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-01-31 12:49 ` Alan
2007-01-31 18:37 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-01-30 23:03 ` Alan
2007-01-31 17:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-01-31 17:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:09 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-02-07 14:03 ` Tejun Heo
2007-02-07 18:40 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 17:28 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:54 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 21:46 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:27 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-30 22:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:50 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:05 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 23:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 23:29 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:45 ` Manu Abraham [this message]
2007-01-31 0:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 0:46 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 1:07 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-31 1:30 ` Greg KH
2007-02-07 10:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2007-01-30 22:43 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:52 ` Diego Calleja
2007-01-30 20:11 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 1:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 1:19 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 2:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 1:24 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 2:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-01-31 2:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-02-05 9:49 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-02-06 13:37 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-02-06 14:57 ` Dave Jones
2007-02-06 16:30 ` Gene Heskett
2007-02-06 16:36 ` Gene Heskett
2007-02-06 21:14 ` Akemi Yagi
2007-02-06 22:15 ` floppy (Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, OT) Oleg Verych
2007-02-07 13:33 ` Free Linux Driver Development! Sunil Naidu
2007-02-07 13:50 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-08 0:43 ` David Lang
2007-02-06 15:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-06 16:11 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-01-31 10:08 ` Rewriting floppy.c was " Andi Kleen
2007-01-31 9:20 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-01-31 9:32 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 9:34 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-01-31 16:18 ` Martin Seidl
2007-01-31 17:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 18:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 18:58 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-31 19:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-02-01 13:12 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-02-01 13:22 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-02-01 17:13 ` Al Viro
2007-01-31 17:41 ` Sergei Organov
2007-02-01 5:46 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 14:22 ` Sergei Organov
2007-02-01 14:41 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:08 ` Dmitri Vorobiev
2007-01-30 19:49 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:15 ` Andrew Lyon
2007-01-30 20:30 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 13:29 ` Christer Weinigel
2007-02-04 18:19 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 21:33 ` Christer Weinigel
2007-01-31 2:27 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-31 6:26 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 6:48 ` Kumar Gala
2007-01-31 20:01 ` Michael K. Edwards
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2007-02-04 18:20 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 19:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-02-05 8:13 ` Greg KH
2007-02-05 15:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-02-06 6:42 ` Greg KH
2007-02-06 13:35 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-02-06 17:01 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 18:59 ` Pierre Ossman
2007-02-06 6:44 ` Greg KH
2007-02-06 8:29 ` Manu Abraham
2007-02-06 18:21 ` Greg KH
2007-02-07 7:12 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-02-07 18:42 ` Greg KH
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2007-01-30 23:35 ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-31 13:06 Nicolas Mailhot
2007-01-31 19:29 ` Francois Romieu
2007-01-31 19:54 ` Auke Kok
2007-01-31 21:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:48 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 20:09 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-01-31 20:12 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 21:15 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 5:50 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 22:06 ` Dave Jones
2007-01-31 22:08 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-31 23:00 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-31 23:04 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-02-01 1:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-02-01 1:39 ` Lee Revell
2007-02-01 10:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 23:44 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 0:07 ` Trent Waddington
2007-02-01 1:58 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 8:40 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 9:03 ` Trent Waddington
2007-02-01 9:22 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 9:34 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 23:59 ` Lee Revell
2007-02-01 11:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-14 12:00 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-02 4:54 Christoph Bartelmus
2007-02-04 6:26 Larry Finger
2007-02-04 10:36 ` Michael Buesch
2007-02-04 21:37 devzero
2007-02-04 23:04 ` Oleg Verych
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