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From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com>, Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@suse.cz>
Cc: "Dmitry Safonov" <dima@arista.com>,
	"Andrei Vagin" <avagin@gmail.com>,
	"GNU C Library" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Petr Špaček" <petr.spacek@nic.cz>
Subject: Re: [Y2038][time namespaces] Question regarding CLOCK_REALTIME support plans in Linux time namespaces
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 22:05:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d3d00ac-c7a0-7168-0450-8a0e1499ea2b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pn41j7jx.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On 11/25/20 7:17 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Carlos, Petr,
> 
> On Wed, Nov 25 2020 at 15:37, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On 11/19/20 7:14 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> So from my point of view asking for distorted time still _is_ a request
>>> for ponies.
>>
>> I'm happy if you say it's more work than the value it provides.
> 
> Thinking more about it. Would a facility which provides:
> 
>          CLOCK_FAKE_MONOTONIC|BOOTTIME|REALTIME
> 
> where you can go wild on setting time to whatever you want solve
> your problem?

We would need a way to inject CLOCK_FAKE_* in lieu of the real
constants.

There are only two straight forward ways I know how to do that
and they aren't very useful e.g. alternative build, syscall hot-path
debug code to alter the constant.

We might write a syscall interception framework using seccomp
and SECCOMP_RET_TRACE, but that involves ptrace'ing the process
under test, and is equivalent to a micro-sandbox. I'm not against
that idea for testing; we would test what we ship.

I don't think eBPF can modify the incoming arguments.

I need to go check if systemtap can modify incoming arguments;
I've never done that in any script.

In what other ways can we inject the new constants?

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-26  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-30 10:02 Lukasz Majewski
2020-10-30 13:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-30 15:43   ` Lukasz Majewski
2020-10-30 13:58 ` Cyril Hrubis
2020-10-30 14:02   ` Zack Weinberg
2020-10-30 15:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-30 16:58       ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-10-30 20:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-30 22:19           ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-10-31  1:38             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-03 12:43               ` Cyril Hrubis
2020-11-05 17:25               ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-07  0:47                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-19 18:37                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-20  0:14                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-25 17:06                       ` Petr Špaček
2020-11-25 20:37                       ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-26  0:17                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-26  3:05                           ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2020-11-26  8:21                             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-14 10:25 ` Pavel Machek

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