From: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Qinyun Tan <qinyuntan@linux.alibaba.com>, "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
corbet@lwn.net, Dave.Martin@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
tglx@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
x86@kernel.org, feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/12] x86,fs/resctrl: Program PLZA through kmode arch hooks
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 13:17:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d7c79bf-1e40-4db7-8f66-45f234b6d87e@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260605100642.1103628-1-qinyuntan@linux.alibaba.com>
Hi Qinyun,
Thanks for reviewing the patches.
On 6/5/26 05:06, Qinyun Tan wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 06:09:27PM -0500, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> On 5/20/2026 5:16 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
>>> So maybe I'm just confused by the name
>>> "global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu"
>>>
>>> That sounds like "Use the CLOSID from PLZA, but keep the RMID from
>>> legacy PQR_ASSOC.
>>
>>> To make that happen, I thing the PLZA MSR should have rmid_en = 0.
>>> But the only code I see that sets this always sets rmid_en=1.
>>
>> Setting rmid_en = 0 in [1] disables counting of kernel usage for
>> RMID 1 (from ctrl1).
>
> I've been reviewing these patches and went back to the AMD hardware
> manual (Publication #69193, Rev 1.00, March 2026) to understand the
> RMID_EN semantics.
>
> The spec defines RMID_EN (bit 31 of PQR_PLZA_ASSOC, MSR C000_03FCh):
>
> "RMID_EN (PLZA Resource Monitoring Identifier Association Enable)
> - bit 31. When set and PLZA_EN is set, the Resource Monitoring
> Identifier (RMID) for this logical processor executing at CPL=0
> is specified in the RMID field instead of PQR_ASSOC[RMID]."
>
> Reading "instead of PQR_ASSOC[RMID]", my understanding is that when
> RMID_EN is clear, the hardware falls back to PQR_ASSOC[RMID] - the
> user process's RMID - rather than disabling monitoring entirely.
> If that reading is correct, RMID_EN would be a source selector
> between PLZA and PQR_ASSOC, not an on/off switch for counting.
>
> Babu, could you confirm whether that is the intended hardware
> behavior?
Yes. That is correct. RMID_EN is a source selector.
>
>> The key difference between the two modes is:
>>
>> In one mode, user and kernel usage are counted together.
>> In the other mode, kernel usage is counted separately from user usage.
>
> If RMID_EN=0 does fall back to PQR_ASSOC[RMID], then the "counted
> together" behavior only holds when the user process happens to be in
> the same group as the PLZA-bound group. Taking Tony's example:
>
> # mkdir ctrl1 # CLOSID=1, RMID=1, bound to inherit_mon via PLZA
> # mkdir ctrl2 # CLOSID=2, RMID=2
> # echo $$ > ctrl2/tasks
>
> With rmid_en=1 (current code): when the shell (in ctrl2, PQR_ASSOC
> RMID=2) enters kernel mode, kernel activity is counted under PLZA
> RMID=1. The user process's RMID is NOT inherited.
>
> With rmid_en=0: kernel mode would fall back to PQR_ASSOC RMID=2,
> correctly inheriting the monitoring identity of the current user
> process - which seems to be what "inherit_mon" intends.
>
> If this reading is right, Tony's suggestion of adding a parameter to
> control rmid_en based on the mode would be the right fix:
>
> void resctrl_arch_configure_kmode(const struct cpumask *cpu_mask,
> u32 closid, u32 rmid,
> bool assign_rmid, bool enable)
>
> where assign_rmid=true sets RMID_EN=1 (assign_mon) and
> assign_rmid=false sets RMID_EN=0 (inherit_mon).
Yes. You are right. I will fix it next revision.
>
> ---
>
> Separately, I have a question about the group type constraint for
> global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu (assign_mon mode).
>
> In patch 08/12 ("fs/resctrl: Make info/kernel_mode writable and
> identify the bound group"), resctrl_kernel_mode_write() enforces that
> assign_mon must bind to an RDTMON_GROUP:
>
> if (kmode == BIT(GLOBAL_ASSIGN_CTRL_ASSIGN_MON_PER_CPU) &&
> rdtgrp->type != RDTMON_GROUP) {
>
> This forces the user to create a ctrl group plus a monitor sub-group.
> But since the kernel-mode group is dedicated to kernel work and no
> user tasks are assigned to it, the ctrl group's own RMID (allocated
> via alloc_rmid() at mkdir time) should be clean and usable.
> Requiring an extra monitor group seems to waste a scarce RMID.
>
> Would it make sense to relax this constraint so that assign_mon also
> accepts an RDTCTRL_GROUP? The path infrastructure
> (rdtgroup_by_kmode_path and resctrl_kernel_mode_show) already handles
> the "<ctrl>//" form, so only the check above would need to change:
>
> mkdir /sys/fs/resctrl/kernel_ctrl
> echo "global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu:group=kernel_ctrl//" \
> > info/kernel_mode
>
Yes. That is reasonable.
assign_mon can be RDTMON_GROUP or RDTCTRL_GROUP.
inherit_mon can only be RDTCTRL_GROUP.
Thanks
Babu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-08 18:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-30 23:24 [PATCH v3 00/12] [PATCH v3 00/12] x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-06-11 23:23 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-12 16:56 ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-12 17:00 ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-17 0:00 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 16:28 ` Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for PLZA configuration Babu Moger
2026-06-11 23:40 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-12 15:40 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-12 17:46 ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-12 17:32 ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-12 17:49 ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] fs/resctrl: Add kernel mode (kmode) data structures and arch hook Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:30 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 19:36 ` Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] x86,fs/resctrl: Program PLZA through kmode arch hooks Babu Moger
2026-05-19 20:59 ` Luck, Tony
2026-05-20 17:49 ` Babu Moger
2026-05-20 22:16 ` Luck, Tony
2026-05-20 23:09 ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-05 10:06 ` Qinyun Tan
2026-06-08 18:17 ` Babu Moger [this message]
2026-06-11 11:44 ` Peter Newman
2026-06-11 14:46 ` Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 23:15 ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] x86/resctrl: Initialize supported kernel modes for PLZA Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:35 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-18 16:20 ` Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] fs/resctrl: Initialize the global kernel-mode policy at subsystem init Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:36 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-18 17:14 ` Babu Moger
2026-06-22 16:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-22 16:38 ` Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] fs/resctrl: Add info/kernel_mode for kernel-mode policy introspection Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-18 19:16 ` Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] fs/resctrl: Make info/kernel_mode writable and identify the bound group Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:42 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-19 1:29 ` Babu Moger
2026-06-22 16:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-22 19:03 ` Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] fs/resctrl: Reset kernel-mode binding when its rdtgroup goes away Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:42 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-19 20:22 ` Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] fs/resctrl: Expose kmode_cpus / kmode_cpus_list per rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] resctrl: Hide kmode_cpus[_list] on groups not bound to kernel-mode Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] fs/resctrl: Allow user space to write kmode_cpus / kmode_cpus_list Babu Moger
2026-06-08 9:23 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Qinyun Tan
2026-06-09 14:10 ` Babu Moger
2026-06-10 1:40 ` qinyuntan
2026-06-11 11:17 ` [PATCH 0/4] x86,fs/resctrl: kernel-mode (PLZA) fixes found during review Qinyun Tan
2026-06-11 21:02 ` Babu Moger
2026-06-11 11:17 ` [PATCH 1/4] resctrl: Add kmode arch stubs for ARM MPAM and hide kernel_mode on non-PLZA platforms Qinyun Tan
2026-06-11 11:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] resctrl: Add kmode arch stubs for ARM MPAM Qinyun Tan
2026-06-11 11:17 ` [PATCH 2/4] resctrl: Fix PLZA RMID_EN to be mode-based and relax RDTMON_GROUP constraint for assign_mon Qinyun Tan
2026-06-11 11:17 ` [PATCH 3/4] fs/resctrl: make a failed kernel-mode switch a no-op Qinyun Tan
2026-06-11 11:17 ` [PATCH 4/4] fs/resctrl: program PLZA on a CPU that comes online under a binding Qinyun Tan
2026-06-11 21:53 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] [PATCH v3 00/12] x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Reinette Chatre
2026-06-12 15:37 ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-17 4:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 15:56 ` Babu Moger
2026-06-17 17:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 19:55 ` Babu Moger
2026-06-26 15:55 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-29 13:20 ` Moger, Babu
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