From: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
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Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com,
Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Chen Yucong <slaoub@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org"
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Subject: Re: [tip:x86/asm] x86/umip: Add emulation code for UMIP instructions
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 18:24:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f471c85-dcda-ed3f-299e-8baf68fb55fd@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd612f93-1e21-ed53-4955-f753fbf0aa55@redhat.com>
On 11/08/2017 06:14 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 08/11/2017 18:09, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>> On 11/08/2017 05:57 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> We can postpone enabling UMIP by default by a year or so.
>>>> By this time, new Wine will be on majority of users' machines.
>>>
>>> So you are suggesting we run unnecessarily insecure, only in order to
>>> not do the emulation that we already have the code for and that the
>>> patch implements?
>>
>> We ran insecure in this way for ~25 years.
>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> To avoid having to maintain more obscure, rarely executed code.
>
> As a start, you could propose a patch to disable the emulation code
> through a sysctl or Kconfig symbol.
This way, the emulation code will still be in the kernel, and still
need to be maintained.
In my opinion, if we do emulate these insns, then adding even more code
to disable that emulation is not worth doing.
> I would be surprised if it takes
> more time than what you've spent writing emails in this thread.
Yes, I not only f**ing retarded, I'm also lazy. Thanks guys...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-08 17:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-06 2:27 [PATCH v11 00/12] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 01/12] x86/insn-eval: Compute linear address in several utility functions Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 10:57 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 02/12] x86/insn-eval: Add support to resolve 32-bit address encodings Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 10:58 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 03/12] x86/insn-eval: Add wrapper function for 32 and 64-bit addresses Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 10:58 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 04/12] x86/insn-eval: Handle 32-bit address encodings in virtual-8086 mode Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 10:59 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 05/12] x86/insn-eval: Add support to resolve 16-bit address encodings Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 10:59 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 06/12] x86/cpufeature: Add User-Mode Instruction Prevention definitions Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 10:59 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 07/12] x86: Add emulation code for UMIP instructions Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 11:00 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/umip: " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 16:14 ` Denys Vlasenko
2017-11-08 16:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-08 16:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-11-08 16:53 ` Denys Vlasenko
2017-11-08 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-08 17:09 ` Denys Vlasenko
2017-11-08 17:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-11-08 17:24 ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2017-11-09 6:17 ` Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 17:24 ` Alan Cox
2017-11-09 6:13 ` Ricardo Neri
2017-11-09 6:11 ` Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 08/12] x86/umip: Force a page fault when unable to copy emulated result to user Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 11:00 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 09/12] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention at runtime Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 9:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-09 5:51 ` Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 11:01 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/umip: " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 10/12] x86/traps: Fixup general protection faults caused by UMIP Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 11:01 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/traps: Fix up " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 11/12] selftests/x86: Add tests for User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 11:02 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-06 2:27 ` [PATCH v11 12/12] selftests/x86: Add tests for instruction str and sldt Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 11:02 ` [tip:x86/asm] selftests/x86: Add tests for the STR and SLDT instructions tip-bot for Ricardo Neri
2017-11-08 10:00 ` [PATCH v11 00/12] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 5:46 ` Ricardo Neri
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