From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>,
kumon@flab.fujitsu.co.jp, Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:46:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001027094613.A18382@gruyere.muc.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39F92187.A7621A09@timpanogas.org> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0010270257550.18660-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0010270257550.18660-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>; from viro@math.psu.edu on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:13:33AM -0400
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:13:33AM -0400, Alexander Viro wrote:
> I didn't look into recent changes in fs/locks.c, but I have quite problem
> inventing a scenario when _adding_ BKL (without reverting other changes)
> might give an absolute improvement. Well, I see a couple of really perverted
> scenarios, but... Seriously, folks, could you compare the 4 variants above
> and gather the contention data for the -test9 on your loads? That would help
> a lot.
I think it is easy to see. Switching between CPUs for criticial section
always has an latency because the lock/data update needs some time to cross
the bus
When you have two CPUs contending on common paths it is better to do:
CPU #0 CPU #1
grab big lock spin
do thing
release big lock ----> latency ---> grab big lock
do thing
do other things ....
than to do
grab small lock 1 spin
do small thing
release small lock 1 --> latency --> get small lock
do small thing
release lock
<--- latency ---
get small lock, fetch data
do small thing
release lock
---> latency ---> get small lock
do small thing
release lock
<--- latency ----
etc. The latencies add up and they're long because they're bus limited.
For common paths it is definitely useful to have bigger lock sections.
-Andi
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2000-10-27 6:24 ` Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()? (Was: " kumon
2000-10-27 6:32 ` Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: " Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-27 7:13 ` Alexander Viro
2000-10-27 7:46 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2000-10-27 10:23 ` Andrew Morton
2000-10-27 10:25 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-27 12:57 ` [PATCH] " kumon
2000-10-28 15:46 ` Andrew Morton
2000-10-28 15:58 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-28 16:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-10-28 16:20 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Alan Cox
2000-10-29 19:45 ` dean gaudet
2000-10-30 6:29 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30 15:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-30 16:36 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-30 18:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-28 16:46 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) Andrew Morton
2000-10-30 9:27 ` kumon
2000-10-30 15:00 ` Andrew Morton
2000-10-30 23:24 ` dean gaudet
2000-11-04 5:08 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange " Andrew Morton
2000-11-04 6:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-11-04 10:54 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of Alan Cox
2000-11-04 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-11-05 16:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-05 20:21 ` dean gaudet
2000-11-05 22:43 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-04 20:03 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) dean gaudet
2000-11-04 20:42 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange Alan Cox
2000-11-04 20:11 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) dean gaudet
2000-11-04 20:43 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange Alan Cox
2000-11-05 4:52 ` dean gaudet
2000-10-31 15:36 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) Andrew Morton
2000-11-02 12:50 ` kumon
2000-11-01 1:02 ` kumon
2000-11-02 11:09 ` kumon
2000-11-04 5:07 ` Andrew Morton
2000-10-27 8:17 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-04 5:55 ` Preemptive scheduling of woken-up processes kumon
2000-10-27 10:11 ` Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) kumon
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