From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
Cc: kumon@flab.fujitsu.co.jp, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
"Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Olaf Kirch <okir@monad.swb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 17:58:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001028175812.A10106@gruyere.muc.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39F957BC.4289FF10@uow.edu.au>, <39F92187.A7621A09@timpanogas.org> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0010270257550.18660-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu> <20001027094613.A18382@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <39F957BC.4289FF10@uow.edu.au> <200010271257.VAA24374@asami.proc.flab.fujitsu.co.jp> <39FAF4C6.3BB04774@uow.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <39FAF4C6.3BB04774@uow.edu.au>; from andrewm@uow.edu.au on Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 02:46:14AM +1100
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 02:46:14AM +1100, Andrew Morton wrote:
> kumon@flab.fujitsu.co.jp wrote:
> >
> > Change the following two macros:
> > acquire_fl_sem()->lock_kernel()
> > release_fl_sem()->unlock_kernel()
> > then
> > 5192 Req/s @8cpu is got. It is same as test8 within fluctuation.
>
> hmm.. BKL increases scalability. News at 11.
>
> The big question is: why is Apache using file locking so
> much? Is this normal behaviour for Apache?
It serializes accept() to avoid the thundering herd from the wake-all
semantics.
With the 2.4 stack that is probably not needed anymore (it was in 2.2),
it may just work to remove the file locking (it should always be correct,
just on 2.2 it may be slower to remove it)
> Because if so, the file locking code will be significantly
> bad for the scalability of Apache on SMP (of all things!).
> It basically grabs a big global lock for _anything_. It
> looks like it could be a lot more granular.
iirc everybody who looked at the code agrees that it needs a rewrite
badly.
-Andi
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2000-10-27 6:24 ` Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()? (Was: " kumon
2000-10-27 6:32 ` Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: " Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-27 7:13 ` Alexander Viro
2000-10-27 7:46 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-27 10:23 ` Andrew Morton
2000-10-27 10:25 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-27 12:57 ` [PATCH] " kumon
2000-10-28 15:46 ` Andrew Morton
2000-10-28 15:58 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2000-10-28 16:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-10-28 16:20 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Alan Cox
2000-10-29 19:45 ` dean gaudet
2000-10-30 6:29 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30 15:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-30 16:36 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-30 18:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-28 16:46 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) Andrew Morton
2000-10-30 9:27 ` kumon
2000-10-30 15:00 ` Andrew Morton
2000-10-30 23:24 ` dean gaudet
2000-11-04 5:08 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange " Andrew Morton
2000-11-04 6:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-11-04 10:54 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of Alan Cox
2000-11-04 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-11-05 16:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-05 20:21 ` dean gaudet
2000-11-05 22:43 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-04 20:03 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) dean gaudet
2000-11-04 20:42 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange Alan Cox
2000-11-04 20:11 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) dean gaudet
2000-11-04 20:43 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange Alan Cox
2000-11-05 4:52 ` dean gaudet
2000-10-31 15:36 ` [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) Andrew Morton
2000-11-02 12:50 ` kumon
2000-11-01 1:02 ` kumon
2000-11-02 11:09 ` kumon
2000-11-04 5:07 ` Andrew Morton
2000-10-27 8:17 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-04 5:55 ` Preemptive scheduling of woken-up processes kumon
2000-10-27 10:11 ` Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was: Strange performance behavior of 2.4.0-test9) kumon
2000-11-05 4:19 [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of lock_kernel()?(Was:Strange " Dave Wagner
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