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From: Daniel Stone <daniel@kabuki.eyep.net>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>,
	David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
	Karel Kulhavy <clock@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /dev/random: really secure?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:27:44 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001218225557Z129525-439+4788@vger.kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:15:54 MDT." <200012182215.eBIMFsb14852@webber.adilger.net>
In-Reply-To: <200012182215.eBIMFsb14852@webber.adilger.net>

> This would allow you to say "eth0 is my internal network and I'm not
> trying to hack my own system, so use IP traffic on that interface to add
> entropy to the pool, but not packets that are on port 6699/21/23 or reply
> packets".  It would probably just be a matter of adding a new flag to a
> filter rule to say "use packets that match this rule for entropy", and
> then it is up to the user to determine what is safe to use.  The fact
> that it is user configurable makes it even harder for a cracker to know
> what affects the entropy pool.

This isn't from the kernel, but works great in userspace:

iptables -n RANDOM
iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j RANDOM
iptables -A RANDOM -p tcp --dport 6699 -j <otherchain/rule>
iptables -A RANDOM -p tcp --dport 21 -j <asabove>
iptables -A RANDOM -p tcp --dport 32 -j <ditto,etc>
iptables -A RANDOM -m state --state ! NEW -j <thisisgettingstupidnow>
iptables -P RANDOM -j ULOG --ulog-nlgroup 32

This sends a message down netlink in ULOG format.
ULOG is a userspace logging extension written by Harald Welte, but it's
extensible like you wouldn't believe, so you could easily do some whacky
stuff with it. Or just hook in to a Netfilter hook and do it all from kernel
land.
ULOG's homepage: http://www.gnumonks.org/gnumonks/projects/project_details?p_id=1

:) d
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-18 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-17 21:50 Karel Kulhavy
2000-12-18  0:18 ` David Schwartz
2000-12-18  8:21   ` Karel Kulhavy
2000-12-18 20:38   ` Jamie Lokier
2000-12-18 21:33     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-12-18 22:15       ` Andreas Dilger
2000-12-19  9:27         ` Daniel Stone [this message]
2000-12-19 11:49       ` Kurt Garloff
2000-12-19 12:48         ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-19 16:51         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-12-19 17:39         ` Pavel Machek
2000-12-18 21:58     ` David Schwartz
2000-12-18  8:49 ` David Feuer
2000-12-18  9:22 ` Martin Mares
2000-12-19  6:49 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-12-20  3:41 Bernd Eckenfels
2000-12-20 17:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-12-20  3:49 Bernd Eckenfels

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