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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: dave@zarzycki.org
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:14:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200101100114.RAA07780@pizda.ninka.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101091708410.1796-100000@batman.zarzycki.org> (message from Dave Zarzycki on Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:14:33 -0800 (PST))
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101091708410.1796-100000@batman.zarzycki.org>

   Date: 	Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:14:33 -0800 (PST)
   From: Dave Zarzycki <dave@zarzycki.org>

   On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ingo Molnar wrote:

   > then you'll love the zerocopy patch :-) Just use sendfile() or specify
   > MSG_NOCOPY to sendmsg(), and you'll see effective memory-to-card
   > DMA-and-checksumming on cards that support it.

   I'm confused.

   In user space, how do you know when its safe to reuse the buffer that was
   handed to sendmsg() with the MSG_NOCOPY flag? Or does sendmsg() with that
   flag block until the buffer isn't needed by the kernel any more? If it
   does block, doesn't that defeat the use of non-blocking I/O?

Ignore Ingo's comments about the MSG_NOCOPY flag, I've not included
those parts in the zerocopy patches as they are very controversial
and require some VM layer support.

Basically, it pins the userspace pages, so if you write to them before
the data is fully sent and the networking buffer freed, they get
copied with a COW fault.

Later,
David S. Miller
davem@redhat.com
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-10  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-08 21:56 Jes Sorensen
2001-01-08  1:24 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-08 10:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-08 10:34     ` David S. Miller
2001-01-08 18:05       ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 21:07         ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 10:23         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 10:31           ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 11:28             ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 12:04               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 14:25                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 14:33                   ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 15:00                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 15:27                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 16:16                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 16:37                         ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 16:48                           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 17:29                             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 17:38                               ` Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 18:38                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 19:54                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 20:10                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10  0:00                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 20:12                                     ` Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 23:20                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 23:34                                         ` Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 23:52                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-17  5:16                                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-09 17:56                             ` Chris Evans
2001-01-09 18:41                               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 22:58                                 ` [patch]: ac4 blk (was Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1) Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 19:20                           ` [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 J Sloan
2001-01-09 18:10                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 15:38                     ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-01-09 16:40                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 17:30                         ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-01-09 18:12                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 18:35                           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 17:53                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 21:13                 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 19:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 20:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:36                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 20:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 21:12                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 21:26                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10  7:42                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-10  8:05                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10  8:33                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-10  8:37                                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-10 23:32                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-19 15:55                                     ` Andrew Scott
2001-01-17 14:05                               ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-18  0:53                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-18  1:13                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:50                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-18 18:04                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 21:12                                     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-19  1:52                                       ` 2.4.1-pre8 video/ohci1394 compile problem ebi4
2001-01-19  6:55                                       ` [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 23:06                         ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-01-09 23:54                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10  7:51                             ` Gerd Knorr
2001-01-12  1:42                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 11:42             ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 10:31           ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 11:05             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 18:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 19:19                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 14:18           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 14:40             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 14:51               ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 15:17               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 15:37                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 22:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 15:21                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 15:25               ` Stephen Frost
2001-01-09 15:40                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 15:48                   ` Stephen Frost
2001-01-10  1:14                   ` Dave Zarzycki
2001-01-10  1:14                     ` David S. Miller [this message]
2001-01-10  2:18                       ` Dave Zarzycki
2001-01-10  1:19                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 21:18               ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10  2:56           ` storage over IP (was Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1) dean gaudet
2001-01-10  2:58             ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10  3:18               ` dean gaudet
2001-01-10  3:09                 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10  3:05             ` storage over IP (was Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, Alan Cox
2001-01-08 21:48   ` [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 David S. Miller
2001-01-08 22:32     ` Jes Sorensen
2001-01-08 22:37       ` David S. Miller
2001-01-08 22:43       ` Stephen Frost
2001-01-08 22:36     ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 12:12       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 13:42   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 21:19     ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 13:52   ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-09 15:27     ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-10  9:21       ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-09 13:08 Stephen Landamore
2001-01-09 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 13:47   ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-09 19:15     ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-09 19:14   ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-09 22:03     ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 22:58       ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-09 22:59         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 23:11           ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-10  3:24           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-09 17:46 Manfred Spraul
2001-01-10  8:41 Manfred Spraul
2001-01-10  8:31 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 11:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10 12:03   ` Manfred Spraul
2001-01-10 12:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10 16:18       ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-13 15:43 ` yodaiken

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