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From: Gregory Maxwell <greg@linuxpower.cx>
To: Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
Cc: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:18:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010429161827.B17539@xi.linuxpower.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0104281752290.10866-100000@localhost.localdomain> <20010428215301.A1052@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <200104282256.f3SMuRW15999@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <9cg7t7$gbt$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <3AEBF782.1911EDD2@mandrakesoft.com> <15083.64180.314190.500961@pizda.ninka.net> <20010429153229.L679@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> <200104291848.f3TIm6821037@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20010429221159.U706@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de>
In-Reply-To: <20010429221159.U706@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de>; from ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de on Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:11:59PM +0200

On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:11:59PM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote:
[snip]
> The point is: The code in that "magic page" that considers the
> tradeoff is KERNEL code, which is designed to care about such
> trade-offs for that machine. Glibc never knows this stuff and
> shouldn't, because it is already bloated.
> 
> We get the full win here, for our "compile the kernel for THIS
> machine to get maximum performance"-strategy.
> 
> People tend to compile the kernel, but not the glibc.
> 
> Just let the benchmarks, Linus and Ulrich decide ;-)

The kernel can even customize the page at runtime if it needs to, such as
changing algorithims to deal with lock contention.

Of course, this page will need to present a stable interface to glibc, and
having both the code and a comprehensive jump-table might become tough in a
single page...

  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-29 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-28 15:52 Ingo Molnar
2001-04-28 19:53 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-28 22:56 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29  5:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 11:14     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-29 16:21       ` dean gaudet
2001-04-29 20:19         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 21:16         ` Jim Gettys
2001-04-29 21:40           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 21:47             ` Jim Gettys
2001-05-02 18:18           ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-02 19:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-02 20:55               ` Fabio Riccardi
2001-04-29 22:29         ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-30  7:02       ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30  7:29         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-30  7:51         ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30 14:56         ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-29 11:27     ` David S. Miller
2001-04-29 13:32       ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-29 18:48       ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 18:55         ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 19:02         ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 19:47           ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 19:54           ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 20:11         ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-29 20:18           ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2001-04-30  0:13             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-29 20:45           ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-04-29 22:20           ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-30 16:46           ` Alan Cox
2001-04-29 22:18         ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 19:38       ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-29 23:53         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-30  8:42     ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03  7:13       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-03  7:44         ` Keith Owens
2001-05-03 10:37           ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-03 15:44           ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-05-07 19:04           ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03  9:37         ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 19:03           ` vsyscalls [was Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)] Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 12:23       ` X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd) Helge Hafting
2001-05-03 19:09         ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 19:50           ` agrawal
2001-05-07 19:07             ` vsyscallRe: " Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 20:19           ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 20:41             ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-05-04  8:06               ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-04 17:31                 ` dean gaudet
2001-05-04  8:43             ` bert hubert
2001-05-02 10:52   ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-02 10:53     ` Ingo Molnar

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