From: Andrzej Krzysztofowicz <ankry@pg.gda.pl>
To: p_gortmaker@yahoo.com (Paul Gortmaker)
Cc: jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com (Jeff Garzik),
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox),
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (kernel list)
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drivers/net/others
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:38:19 +0200 (MET DST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200105251138.NAA13986@sunrise.pg.gda.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B0E210C.13B4DB8A@yahoo.com> from "Paul Gortmaker" at May 25, 2001 05:08:28 AM
"Paul Gortmaker wrote:"
> Some hopefully useful/constructive feedback:
>
> Andrzej Krzysztofowicz wrote:
> >
> > +static char version[]
> > +#ifdef MODULE
> > + __initdata
> > +#else
> > + __devinitdata
> > +#endif
> > + = KERN_INFO RTL8139_DRIVER_NAME "\n";
>
> This doesn't look right. If defined(MODULE) then __initdata
> is a no-op (see linux/init.h). You probably just want:
Currently it is no-op.
Hopefully it would change some day. I've seen a patch pointer somewhere.
Maybe you are right that potential only remove of one string from loaded
module code is not worth the change.
> Generally we should aim to reduce the number of #ifdef MODULE, rather
> than add more. If the driver load paths look the same regardless
> of whether built in or modular then driver maintenance is easier.
> (Ok, removing existing #ifdef MODULE is a 2.5 thing, but we should
> avoid adding more in 2.4.x)
IMO there's no difference whoether there's 3 or 4 of them.
There's no point in adding an new #ifdef only if there's none currently
(IMHO).
> We can probably do something better with cases like these too:
>
> > +#ifdef MODULE
> > + am79c961_banner();
> > +#endif /* MODULE */
>
> I think the days of kitchen sink kernels with 20 drivers all compiled in
> are over, and so we should just do the version printk/banner unconditionally.
Jeff, your opinion here ?
> This way, if you have unused drivers built into your image, at least you
> will have a way of knowing it. (People who don't use modules are clearly
> building their own kernels and don't want any unused drivers accidentally
> glued into their image).
> Other options for dealing with printing driver version info include:
>
> (1) to replace the printk(...) with e.g. module_banner(...) and have the
> conditional stuff hidden in how module_banner() is defined in module.h
>
> (2) have sys_create_module or sys_init_module print out the
> MODULE_DESCRIPTION and (optionally?) MODULE_AUTHOR for all modules
> thus removing code replication from each module. (This assumes that
> the modinfo section is, and will remain with modules in the future).
> I personally like the sounds of (2) a lot. Of course we would have to
> make sure all modules had a useful MODULE_DESCRIPTION.
>
> I'd avoid making patches like this:
>
> > -#endif
> > +#endif /* CONFIG_ISAPNP || CONFIG_ISAPNP_MODULE */
OK.
> ...they fall into the category of "patching for the sake of patching"
> (which is not good in 2.4.x) and you end up inflicting your style on
> the original author(s) who may not like it (especially if the corresponding
> #ifdef is only one line up...). One could argue that the printk(version)
> vs. printk("%s\n", version) changes fall into the same category...
>
> Also might want to avoid changes like this:
>
> > - if (ei_debug && version_printed++ == 0)
> > + if (version_printed++ == 0)
> > printk(version);
It was intentional. I follor Jeff's suggestion of printing the version banner
rules, i.e.
- print version unconditionally for modules
- print version only if hardware has been detected for built-in.
Having different behaviour of different modules here is very bad IMO.
> that are actually changing the original author's intention. In this case
> (ne.c) the compiled output remains unchanged, and I'm okay with the
Unfinished.
> change in intention since we now have the "quiet" boot argument anyway.
>
> Also, if you are changing version strings like this:
>
> static char version[] __initdata =
> - "at1700.c:v1.15 4/7/98 Donald\ Becker(becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov)\n";
> + KERN_INFO "at1700.c:v1.15 4/7/98 Donald Becker (becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov)\n";
>
> to add KERN_xxx tags, then you could also:
> s/becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/becker@scyld.com/
OK. Thanks for the suggestion.
> and I'm sure Donald would thank you for it.
>
> Finally, breaking your patch into logical chunks / separate e-mails would
> also ensure that your work has a better chance of getting used - e.g.
Final version will be splitted out with Cc: to the appropriate maintainers.
> [PATCH] add KERN_INFO to version tags of net drivers
> [PATCH] missing __[dev]initdata in net drivers
> [PATCH] add MODULE_PARM_DESC to various net drivers
IMO, no chance. They are too close to be separated in many places.
I would rather find out which of the changes are bad/unacceptable.
Thanks for your comments.
Andrzej
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-05-25 11:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-05-24 1:02 Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-05-24 3:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-24 8:45 ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-05-24 8:51 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-05-24 12:01 ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-05-24 14:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-24 16:00 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-24 18:22 ` Rasmus Andersen
2001-05-25 9:08 ` Paul Gortmaker
2001-05-25 11:38 ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz [this message]
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