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From: "Daniel R. Kegel" <dank@alumni.caltech.edu>
To: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	x@xman.org
Subject: Re: A signal fairy tale
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:57:47 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200106280257.TAA06889@alumnus.caltech.edu> (raw)

From: Christopher Smith <x@xman.org>
>> [ sigopen() proposal ]
>... From a programming standpoint, this 
>looks like a really nice approach. I must say I prefer this approach to the 
>various "event" strategies I've seen to date, as it fixes the primary 
>problem with signals, while still allowing us to hook in to all the 
>standard POSIX API's that already use signals. 

Thanks.  I'm sure people already thought of this long ago, it's basically just 
the usual "In Unix, everything's a file".  Until you ran into that
problem where the jvm was stealing your signals, though, I hadn't seen
a situation where having signals behave like files would be important.

>It'd be nice if I could pass 
>in a 0 for signum and have the kernel select from unused signals (problem 
>being that "unused" is not necessarily easy to define), althouh I guess an 
>inefficient version of this could be handled in userland.

There is a (non-threadsafe) convention that Jamie Lokier pointed out
for finding an unused thread.   If we allowed sigopen(-1) to allocate
a new signal for you, it'd probably just use the same scheme...

>I presume the fd could be shared between threads and otherwise behave like 
>a normal fd, which would be sooooper nice.

Yes.

>I guess the main thing I'm thinking is this could require some significant 
>changes to the way the kernel behaves. Still, it's worth taking a "try it 
>and see approach". If anyone else thinks this is a good idea I may hack 
>together a sample patch and give it a whirl.

What's the biggest change you see?  From my (two-martini-lunch-tainted)
viewpoint, it's just another kind of signal masking, sorta...

>Thanks again good fairy Dan/Eunice. ;-)

You're welcome (and I'll tell Eunice you liked her idea!).

- Dan


             reply	other threads:[~2001-06-28  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-28  2:57 Daniel R. Kegel [this message]
2001-06-29  8:19 ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-29  9:29   ` Dan Kegel
2001-06-29 18:46     ` Dan Kegel
2001-07-02 22:33       ` Christopher Smith
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-28 20:11 Daniel R. Kegel
2001-06-29  8:31 ` Christopher Smith
     [not found] <fa.d69j5vv.ej8irj@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.h2rpibv.87m5bp@ifi.uio.no>
2001-06-28 14:59   ` Dan Maas
2001-06-28 15:21     ` Alan Cox
2001-06-29  8:26   ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-29 11:56     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-06-30 10:02     ` Jan Hudec
2001-06-28  3:04 Daniel R. Kegel
2001-06-28 14:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-06-28  2:49 Daniel R. Kegel
2001-06-29  8:18 ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-29  9:05   ` Dan Kegel
2001-06-26 12:54 Dan Kegel
2001-06-27  3:56 ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-27  6:21 ` Balbir Singh
2001-06-27 18:11   ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-28  3:28     ` Balbir Singh
2001-06-27  9:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-06-27 18:16   ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-28 12:58 ` John Fremlin
2001-06-28 16:21   ` Jamie Lokier
2001-06-29  8:22 ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-29 11:47   ` John Fremlin

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