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From: "Daniel R. Kegel" <dank@alumni.caltech.edu>
To: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>, x@xman.org
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: A signal fairy tale
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:04:41 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200106280304.UAA07087@alumnus.caltech.edu> (raw)

Christopher Smith <x@xman.org> wrote:

> Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > Btw, this functionality is already available using sigaction().  Just
> > search for a signal whose handler is SIG_DFL.  If you then block that
> > signal before changing, checking the result, and unblocking the signal,
> > you can avoid race conditions too.  (This is what my programs do).
> 
> It's more than whether a signal is blocked or not, unfortunately. Lots of 
> applications will invoke sigwaitinfo() on whatever the current signal mask 
> is, which means you can't rely on sigaction to solve your problems. :-(

As Chris points out, allocating a signal by the scheme Jamie
describes is neccessary but not sufficient.  The problem Chris
ran into is that he allocated a signal fair and square, only to find
the application picking it up via sigwaitinfo()!
Yes, this is a bug in the application -- but it's interesting that this
bug only shows up when you try to integrate a new, well-behaved, library 
into the app.  It's a fragile part of the Unix API.  sigopen() is
a way for libraries to defend themselves against misuse of sigwaitinfo()
by big applications over which you have no control.

So sigopen() is a technological fix to a social problem, I guess.
- Dan

             reply	other threads:[~2001-06-28  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-28  3:04 Daniel R. Kegel [this message]
2001-06-28 14:46 ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found] <fa.d69j5vv.ej8irj@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.h2rpibv.87m5bp@ifi.uio.no>
2001-06-28 14:59   ` Dan Maas
2001-06-28 15:21     ` Alan Cox
2001-06-29  8:26   ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-29 11:56     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-06-30 10:02     ` Jan Hudec
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-28 20:11 Daniel R. Kegel
2001-06-29  8:31 ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-28  2:57 Daniel R. Kegel
2001-06-29  8:19 ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-29  9:29   ` Dan Kegel
2001-06-29 18:46     ` Dan Kegel
2001-07-02 22:33       ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-28  2:49 Daniel R. Kegel
2001-06-29  8:18 ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-29  9:05   ` Dan Kegel
2001-06-26 12:54 Dan Kegel
2001-06-27  3:56 ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-27  6:21 ` Balbir Singh
2001-06-27 18:11   ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-28  3:28     ` Balbir Singh
2001-06-27  9:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-06-27 18:16   ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-28 12:58 ` John Fremlin
2001-06-28 16:21   ` Jamie Lokier
2001-06-29  8:22 ` Christopher Smith
2001-06-29 11:47   ` John Fremlin

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