From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>
To: Khalid Aziz <khalid@fc.hp.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>,
Linux kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Support for serial console on legacy free machines
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:40:31 -0600 (MDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200107302240.f6UMeWg2001230@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B65D3DA.D70B48A0@fc.hp.com> "from Khalid Aziz at Jul 30, 2001 03:38:34 pm"
Khalid Aziz writes:
> Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > Has anyone considered allowing console devices to run over bi-directional
> > parallel ports? I imagine most of the required code is in PLIP and serial,
> > which unfortunately I know nothing about.
> >
> > Several newer systems I have today do not have physical serial ports at all,
> > but all of them (even laptops) still have bi-directional parallel ports.
> >
> > I suppose there may be some difficulties in exporting a "serial-like"
> > interface to the user apps (e.g. minicom and such), but maybe not.
> >
>
> SH supports console on line printer which I assume is a parallel port
> console. You can check if that code will work for you and if it can be
> ported to x86.
From what I have been told, the "line printer console" is unidirectional
only. This would make it OK for console output, but you could not do real
debugging over such a setup.
What bothers me is that new systems don't have a serial port, and no ISA
slots, so there is no hope of getting a "serial console" support without
ACPI (which is rather heavyweight AFAIK). USB is far too complex to use
for early-boot debugging, so what else is left?
There was some talk about using a low level IP console over ethernet,
but I would imagine this is more complex than the same thing on a
parallel-port. I could be wrong. Of course, an IP console has the
advantage of being useful over a longer distance than a parallel cable,
but may have the disadvantage of poor security.
Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger \ "If a man ate a pound of pasta and a pound of antipasto,
\ would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?"
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-30 22:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-07-30 21:26 Andreas Dilger
2001-07-30 21:38 ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-30 22:40 ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2001-07-30 22:53 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2001-07-30 22:53 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-07-30 23:00 ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-30 23:17 ` Randy.Dunlap
2001-07-30 23:39 ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-30 23:52 ` Randy.Dunlap
2001-07-30 23:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-30 23:40 ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-07-30 23:45 ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-31 14:34 ` Stuart MacDonald
2001-07-31 15:54 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-07-31 16:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-07-31 16:10 ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-31 16:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-31 18:43 ` Russell King
2001-08-01 2:01 ` Keith Owens
2001-07-31 16:42 ` Russell King
2001-07-31 17:14 ` Stuart MacDonald
2001-07-31 18:46 ` Russell King
2001-08-01 3:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-01 3:39 ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-07-31 1:33 ` Keith Owens
2001-07-31 4:50 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-07-31 16:15 ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-29 20:47 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-31 16:20 ` Randy.Dunlap
[not found] <no.id>
2001-07-26 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-30 17:47 ` Khalid Aziz
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-26 21:13 Khalid Aziz
2001-07-27 13:28 ` Simon Richter
2001-07-30 17:49 ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-30 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-30 19:39 ` Khalid Aziz
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