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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>
To: Stuart MacDonald <stuartm@connecttech.com>
Cc: Khalid Aziz <khalid@fc.hp.com>,
	Linux kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Support for serial console on legacy free machines
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:39:38 -0600 (MDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200107311639.f6VGdciQ020335@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000701c119cd$ebf0c720$294b82ce@connecttech.com> "from Stuart MacDonald at Jul 31, 2001 10:34:35 am"

Stuart MacDonald writes:
> From: "Khalid Aziz" <khalid@fc.hp.com>
> > AFAIK, you can not have console on a PCI serial port at this time. I
> > looked at it few months back and found out that PCI initialization
> > happens much too late for a serial console. It would take quite a bit of
> 
> That's very odd. That implies that serial consoles don't use the serial
> driver at all then, as the pci serial port setup is done at the same
> time as the regular serial port setups.
> 
> A) Serial console support is mutually exclusive with the serial driver
> being a module.

Yes, because you want console support long before you get the root fs
mounted and have access to modules.

> C) serial.c contains a completely separate serial console driver,
> complete with its own init routine. Which meshes with the current
> suggestion that the "serial driver" isn't used, and pci init happens
> too late.

It _may_ be that Keith Owens (I think) will change this in 2.5.  He has
talked about a big reorg of the serial layer to separate out the tty
handling from the serial I/O handling.  Maybe at that point my idea of
having a console on a parallel port will work.  I guess that it is just
not that easy right now.

Cheers, Andreas
-- 
Andreas Dilger  \ "If a man ate a pound of pasta and a pound of antipasto,
                 \  would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?"
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/               -- Dogbert


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-31 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-30 21:26 Andreas Dilger
2001-07-30 21:38 ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-30 22:40   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-30 22:53     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2001-07-30 22:53     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-07-30 23:00     ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-30 23:17       ` Randy.Dunlap
2001-07-30 23:39         ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-30 23:52           ` Randy.Dunlap
2001-07-30 23:32       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-30 23:40         ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-07-30 23:45         ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-31 14:34           ` Stuart MacDonald
2001-07-31 15:54             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-07-31 16:00             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-07-31 16:10             ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-31 16:39             ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2001-07-31 18:43               ` Russell King
2001-08-01  2:01               ` Keith Owens
2001-07-31 16:42             ` Russell King
2001-07-31 17:14               ` Stuart MacDonald
2001-07-31 18:46                 ` Russell King
2001-08-01  3:21               ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-01  3:39                 ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-07-31  1:33     ` Keith Owens
2001-07-31  4:50       ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-07-31 16:15         ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-29 20:47           ` Alan Cox
2001-07-31 16:20           ` Randy.Dunlap
     [not found] <no.id>
2001-07-26 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-30 17:47   ` Khalid Aziz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-26 21:13 Khalid Aziz
2001-07-27 13:28 ` Simon Richter
2001-07-30 17:49   ` Khalid Aziz
2001-07-30 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-30 19:39   ` Khalid Aziz

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