From: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
To: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
Cc: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, therapy@endorphin.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@redhat.com
Subject: Re: missing icmp errors for udp packets
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:53:36 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010801085336.C8400@weta.f00f.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107312249230.20772-100000@netcore.fi>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107312249230.20772-100000@netcore.fi>
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 10:59:39PM +0300, Pekka Savola wrote:
bad ping responder == bad PR ;-)
And anyway, who is anyone to judge what the system should be used
for?
I want a system to respond to ping without limitations; it's good
for debugging, diagnostics, etc. If I want, I can just filter the
requests out, or rate-limit the responses.
People who want to do strange stuff can tweak via sysctl.
However, ICMP error messages cannot be effectively filtered; they
may happen due to TTL=0 when forwarding, legit or illegit UDP
connection etc.; only way to effectively limit them is by
rate-limiting. If rate-limiting with informational and error
types are the same, we have an inflexible situation here.
Networks are lossy, you can spill the odd packet anyhow.
It was just a suggestion that we merge all ICMP rate-limiting for
simplicity, I don't see it being an issue for the majority of users.
Perhaps I am wrong, in which case DaveM and Alexey will ignore me :)
I really don't see the need to continue to discuss this further on the
list, but by all means flame me in private!
--cw
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-31 20:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107290739370.2081-100000@netcore.fi>
2001-07-29 15:59 ` kuznet
2001-07-30 13:03 ` Pekka Savola
2001-07-31 18:33 ` kuznet
2001-07-31 18:47 ` Pekka Savola
2001-07-31 18:51 ` clemens
2001-07-31 19:04 ` kuznet
2001-07-31 19:23 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-31 19:25 ` kuznet
2001-07-31 19:34 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-31 19:37 ` kuznet
2001-07-31 19:41 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-31 19:59 ` Pekka Savola
2001-07-31 20:53 ` Chris Wedgwood [this message]
2001-07-31 20:57 ` Pekka Savola
2001-08-02 19:31 ` Pekka Savola
2001-08-03 8:58 ` David S. Miller
[not found] <200107311857.WAA10162@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
2001-07-31 20:16 ` clemens
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