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From: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru
To: mingo@elte.hu
Cc: torvalds@transmeta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, bcrl@redhat.com, andrea@suse.de
Subject: Re: [patch] softirq performance fixes, cleanups, 2.4.10.
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:04:43 +0400 (MSK DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200109281704.VAA04444@ms2.inr.ac.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109281817140.8840-100000@localhost.localdomain> from "Ingo Molnar" at Sep 28, 1 06:31:59 pm

Hello!

> it does not, please read the code again. We iterate over all active bits
> in the 'pending' bitmask.

OK.


> net_rx_action() stops spinning if 1) a jiffy has passed 2) 300 packets
> have been processed. [the jiffy test is not completely accurate

It is. The break is forced not earlier than after one jiffie, but
it may loop for up to 2 jiffies.


> there is nothing sacred about the old method of processing NET_RX_SOFTIRQ,
> then NET_TX_SOFTIRQ, then breaking out of do_softirq() (the mechanizm was
> a bit more complex than that, but in insignificant ways). It's just as
> arbitrary as 10 loops - with the difference that 10 loops perform better.

Do not cheat yourself. 10 is more than 1 by order of magnitude.
I would eat this argument if the limit was 2. :-)


> > Most likely, your problem will disappear when you renice ksoftirqd
> > to higher priority f.e. equal to priority of tux threads.
> 
> (no. see the previous mails.)

But I do not know what exactly to look for there.

Please, explain who exactly obtains an advantage of looping.
net_rx_action()? Do you see drops in backlog?
Actually, I could see a sense in your approach if you said
something sort of: "I see drops in backlog, I want to increase
it to 3000, but it breaks latency, so that let it remain 300,
but instead I will make 10 loops". This would be sane justification
at least.

net_tx_action()? It does not look critical.

Alexey

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-28 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-26 16:44 Ingo Molnar
2001-09-26 17:48 ` Mike Kravetz
2001-09-26 18:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-26 18:55 ` Russell King
2001-09-26 19:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-27 23:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-28  3:20   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-28  7:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 15:17       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-28  7:18   ` [patch] softirq-2.4.10-B2 Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 15:58     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-28 18:36     ` Simon Kirby
2001-09-28 18:47       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 19:31         ` kuznet
2001-09-28 16:18 ` [patch] softirq performance fixes, cleanups, 2.4.10 kuznet
2001-09-28 16:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 17:04     ` kuznet [this message]
2001-09-28 17:21       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-28 17:31         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-28 17:41         ` kuznet
2001-09-28 17:46           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 18:39         ` Josh MacDonald
2001-09-28 17:31       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 17:56         ` kuznet
2001-09-28 18:28           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 19:23             ` kuznet
2001-09-28 19:48               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-29 16:35                 ` kuznet
2001-09-30  9:37                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-09-30  9:01               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 19:39             ` kuznet
2001-09-28 20:03               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 18:51           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-28 16:32   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-28 16:46     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28 16:58       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-28 16:35   ` [patch] softirq-2.4.10-B3 Ingo Molnar
2001-09-29  0:40     ` J . A . Magallon
2001-09-29 11:03 ` [patch] softirq performance fixes, cleanups, 2.4.10 Rusty Russell
2001-09-27 23:29 Oleg Nesterov
2001-09-28  0:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-28  6:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-28  2:50 Oleg Nesterov
2001-09-28  7:56 ` Ingo Molnar

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