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From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
To: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>,
	Doug McNaught <doug@wireboard.com>,
	Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Dump corrupts ext2?
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:25:54 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200110110425.f9B4PsG29656@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1160370000.1002764921@tiny>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110101558210.7049-100000@train.sweet-haven.com> <m3elob3xao.fsf@belphigor.mcnaught.org> <20011010173449.Q10443@turbolinux.com> <200110110133.f9B1XtN28012@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <1160370000.1002764921@tiny>

Chris Mason writes:
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2001 07:33:55 PM -0600 Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> 
> > Andreas Dilger writes:
> 
> >> In Linus kernels 2.4.11+ the block devices and filesystems all use
> >> the page cache, so no more coherency issues.
> > 
> > Um, I thought that there wasn't going to be coherency? For example, if
> > you open /dev/sda and /dev/sda1, they each have a separate cache. I
> > remember some debate about this, and Linus pointed out how hard it was
> > to make things coherent.
> 
> They all use the page cache, but they still use different address
> spaces.

OK, different "address spaces". I didn't recall the precise
terminology :-)

> The block device and getblk share the same address space, so the metadata
> and the block device are on the same cache, except for ext2 directories,
> which act like files do.  Each file has its own address space, so that
> isn't coherent with the block device.
> 
> In other words, block device reads with the FS mounted will probably
> never give consistent results.

Indeed.

				Regards,

					Richard....
Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
Current:   rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca

  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-11  4:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-10 23:03 Lew Wolfgang
2001-10-10 23:11 ` Doug McNaught
2001-10-10 23:34   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-10 23:55     ` Doug McNaught
2001-10-11  1:48     ` Chris Mason
2001-10-11  4:16       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-11  4:29         ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-11 11:47           ` Chris Mason
2001-10-11  2:57     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-10-11  3:13       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-11  0:38   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-11  5:07     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-11  1:33   ` Richard Gooch
2001-10-11  4:25     ` Richard Gooch [this message]
2001-10-10 23:28 ` H. Peter Anvin

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