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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Ian Maclaine-cross <iml@ilm.mech.unsw.edu.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ian Maclaine-cross <iml@debian.org>
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Linux updates RTC secretly when clock synchronizes
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:16:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011102121602.A45@toy.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011031113312.A8738@ilm.mech.unsw.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <20011031113312.A8738@ilm.mech.unsw.edu.au>; from iml@ilm.mech.unsw.edu.au on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:33:12AM +1100

Hi!

> PROBLEM: Linux updates RTC secretly when clock synchronizes.
> 
> Please CC replies etc to Ian Maclaine-cross <iml@debian.org>.
> 
> When /usr/sbin/ntpd synchronizes the Linux kernel (or system) clock
> using the Network Time Protocol the kernel time is accurate to a few
> milliseconds. Linux then sets the Real Time (or Hardware or CMOS)
> Clock to this time at approximately 11 minute intervals. Typical RTCs
> drift less than 10 s/day so rebooting causes only millisecond errors.
> 
> Linux currently does not record the 11 minute updates to a log file.
> Clock programs (like hwclock) cannot correct RTC drift at boot without
> knowing when the RTC was last set. If NTP service is available after a
> long shutdown, ntpd may step the time.  Worse after a longer shutdown
> ntpd may drop out or even synchronize to the wrong time zone.  The
> workarounds are clumsy.
> 
> Please find following my small patch for linux/arch/i386/kernel/time.c
> which adds a KERN_NOTICE of each 11 minute update to the RTC. This is
> just for i386 machines at present. A script can search the logs for
> the last set time of the RTC and update /etc/adjtime.  Hwclock can
> then correct the RTC for drift and set the kernel clock.

That seems as very wrong solution.

What about just making kernel only _read_ system clock, and never set it? 
That looks way cleaner to me.

								Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-11-05 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-31  0:33 Ian Maclaine-cross
2001-10-31  1:05 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-10-31  2:55   ` Ian Maclaine-cross
2001-10-31 11:52     ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-01  0:52       ` Riley Williams
2001-11-01  1:26         ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-01 13:57         ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-02  9:50           ` Riley Williams
2001-11-03 11:41             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-03 18:35               ` Riley Williams
2001-11-03 19:19                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-03 21:04                 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-06 10:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-06  9:57             ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-02 12:16 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-11-05 23:08   ` Riley Williams
2001-11-06 10:17     ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-07  0:00       ` Riley Williams
2001-11-07  0:44         ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-07  1:01           ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-07  1:15             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-07  9:24             ` Russell King
2001-11-08 12:26         ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-08 23:00           ` Riley Williams
2001-11-09  9:32             ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-09 21:11               ` Riley Williams
2001-11-09 21:30                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-09 22:54                   ` Riley Williams
2001-11-09 23:10                     ` Mark Zealey
2001-11-10 20:04                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-10 20:35                       ` Riley Williams
2001-11-10 20:43                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-10 20:49                         ` Doug McNaught
2001-11-06  0:20   ` Ian Maclaine-cross
2001-11-06 10:18     ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-08  5:09       ` Ian Maclaine-cross

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