From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Ian Maclaine-cross <iml@ilm.mech.unsw.edu.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ian Maclaine-cross <iml@debian.org>
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Linux updates RTC secretly when clock synchronizes
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:16:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011102121602.A45@toy.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011031113312.A8738@ilm.mech.unsw.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <20011031113312.A8738@ilm.mech.unsw.edu.au>; from iml@ilm.mech.unsw.edu.au on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:33:12AM +1100
Hi!
> PROBLEM: Linux updates RTC secretly when clock synchronizes.
>
> Please CC replies etc to Ian Maclaine-cross <iml@debian.org>.
>
> When /usr/sbin/ntpd synchronizes the Linux kernel (or system) clock
> using the Network Time Protocol the kernel time is accurate to a few
> milliseconds. Linux then sets the Real Time (or Hardware or CMOS)
> Clock to this time at approximately 11 minute intervals. Typical RTCs
> drift less than 10 s/day so rebooting causes only millisecond errors.
>
> Linux currently does not record the 11 minute updates to a log file.
> Clock programs (like hwclock) cannot correct RTC drift at boot without
> knowing when the RTC was last set. If NTP service is available after a
> long shutdown, ntpd may step the time. Worse after a longer shutdown
> ntpd may drop out or even synchronize to the wrong time zone. The
> workarounds are clumsy.
>
> Please find following my small patch for linux/arch/i386/kernel/time.c
> which adds a KERN_NOTICE of each 11 minute update to the RTC. This is
> just for i386 machines at present. A script can search the logs for
> the last set time of the RTC and update /etc/adjtime. Hwclock can
> then correct the RTC for drift and set the kernel clock.
That seems as very wrong solution.
What about just making kernel only _read_ system clock, and never set it?
That looks way cleaner to me.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-11-05 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-31 0:33 Ian Maclaine-cross
2001-10-31 1:05 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-10-31 2:55 ` Ian Maclaine-cross
2001-10-31 11:52 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-01 0:52 ` Riley Williams
2001-11-01 1:26 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-01 13:57 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-02 9:50 ` Riley Williams
2001-11-03 11:41 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-03 18:35 ` Riley Williams
2001-11-03 19:19 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-03 21:04 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-06 10:01 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-06 9:57 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-02 12:16 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-11-05 23:08 ` Riley Williams
2001-11-06 10:17 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-07 0:00 ` Riley Williams
2001-11-07 0:44 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-07 1:01 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-07 1:15 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-07 9:24 ` Russell King
2001-11-08 12:26 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-08 23:00 ` Riley Williams
2001-11-09 9:32 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-09 21:11 ` Riley Williams
2001-11-09 21:30 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-09 22:54 ` Riley Williams
2001-11-09 23:10 ` Mark Zealey
2001-11-10 20:04 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-10 20:35 ` Riley Williams
2001-11-10 20:43 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-10 20:49 ` Doug McNaught
2001-11-06 0:20 ` Ian Maclaine-cross
2001-11-06 10:18 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-08 5:09 ` Ian Maclaine-cross
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