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From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
To: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>, Ben Israel <ben@genesis-one.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: File System Performance
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:04:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200111130004.fAD04v912703@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011112150740.B32099@mikef-linux.matchmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <00b201c16b81$9d7aaba0$5101a8c0@pbc.adelphia.net> <3BEFF9D1.3CC01AB3@zip.com.au> <00da01c16ba2$96aeda00$5101a8c0@pbc.adelphia.net> <3BF02702.34C21E75@zip.com.au> <200111121959.fACJxsj08462@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20011112150740.B32099@mikef-linux.matchmail.com>

Mike Fedyk writes:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:59:54PM -0700, Richard Gooch wrote:
> > Here's an idea: add a "--compact" option to tar, so that it creates
> > *all* inodes (files and directories alike) in the base directory, and
> > then renames newly created entries to shuffle them into their correct
> > positions. That should limit the number of block groups that are used,
> > right?
> > 
> > It would probably also be a good idea to do that for cp as well, so
> > that when I do a "cp -al" of a virgin kernel tree, I can keep all the
> > directory inodes together. It will make a cold diff even faster.
> 
> I don't think that would help at all... With the current file/dir
> allocator it will choose a new block group for each directory no
> matter what the parent is...

I thought the current implementation was that when creating a
directory, ext2fs searches forward from the block group the parent
directory is in, looking for a "relatively free" block group. So, a
number of successive calls to mkdir(2) with the same parent directory
will result in the child directories being in the same block group.

So, creating the directory tree by creating directories in the base
directory and then shuffling should result in the directories be
spread out over a modest number of block groups, rather than a large
number.

Addendum to my scheme: leaf nodes should be created in their
directories, not in the base directory. IOW, it's only directories
that should use this trick.

Am I wrong in my understanding of the current algorithm?

				Regards,

					Richard....
Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
Current:   rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-11-13  0:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-12 13:54 Ben Israel
2001-11-12 16:33 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-12 17:50   ` Ben Israel
2001-11-12 19:46     ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-12 19:59     ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-12 23:07       ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-13  0:04       ` Richard Gooch [this message]
2001-11-13  0:08         ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-13  0:26         ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-13  0:47           ` Mike Castle
2001-11-13  1:28           ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-13  6:34           ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-13 20:56             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-13  7:45         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-12 20:06     ` Steve Lord
2001-11-12 20:41       ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-13  0:17         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-13  0:40           ` Peter J . Braam
2001-11-13 20:46             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-16 22:07               ` Peter J . Braam
2001-11-16 23:14                 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-12 21:27       ` Steve Lord
2001-11-12 21:43         ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-12 21:48           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-12 22:11             ` Lionel Bouton
2001-11-12 19:41               ` Gérard Roudier
2001-11-12 22:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-12 22:30                 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-11-12 22:36                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-12 23:04                   ` Mike Castle
2001-11-13  9:56                     ` Peter Wächtler
2001-11-13  9:41                 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-11-12 22:16             ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-12 22:32               ` Lionel Bouton
2001-11-12 22:45                 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-12 22:39               ` Alan Cox
2001-11-12 22:39                 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-11-12 22:46               ` Mike Castle
2001-11-12 22:26             ` Steve Lord
2001-11-12 21:45         ` Steve Lord
2001-11-12 21:53         ` Lionel Bouton
2001-11-12 16:40 ` Ben Israel
2001-11-12 17:29 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-12 22:36 Grant Erickson

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