From: "Dieter Nützel" <Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de>
To: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
Cc: Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Unresponiveness of 2.4.16
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:31:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011128013129Z281843-17408+21534@vger.kernel.org> (raw)
Andrew Morton wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> >
> > I agree that the current i/o scheduler has really bad interactive
> > performance -- at first sight your changes looks mostly like add-on
> > hacks though.
>
> Good hacks, or bad ones?
As I can "see" not so good.
I've tried "dbench 32" and playing an MP3 with Noatun (KDE-2.2.2) and "saw"
my reported hiccup since 2.4.7-ac4, as always.
Noatun stops after 9-10 seconds of the "dbench 32" run and then every few
seconds, again and again. The hiccup take place more often but for shorter
times then without your patch.
System was:
2.4.16 +
preempt +
lock-break-rml-2.4.16-1.patch +
all ReiserFS patches for 2.4.16
1 GHz Athlon II
MSI MS-6167 Rev 1.0B (AMD Irongate C4, without bypass)
640 MB PC100-2-2-2 SDRAM
U160 IBM 18 GB disk
AHA-2940 UW
> It keeps things localised. It works. It's tunable. It's the best
> IO scheduler presently available.
Throughput was a little lower ;-)
Don't forget to tune max-readahead.
I've used 127 and that gave me 4 MB (at the end) to 6 MB (at the beginning of
the disk) more transferrate.
Write caching is off per default on all of my disks and it didn't offer much
gain with dbench and bonnie++.
> > Arjan's priority based scheme is more promising.
>
> If the IO priority becomes an attribute of the calling process
> then an approach like that has value. For writes, the priority
> should be driven by VM pressure and it's probably simpler just
> to stick the priority into struct buffer_head -> struct request.
> For reads, the priority could just be scooped out of *current.
Yes, please. I think, too that we need IO priority even for "little" IO
consuming (weak) RT tasks (MP3, DVD, etc).
> If we're not going to push the IO priority all the way down from
> userspace then you may as well keep the logic inside the elevator
> and just say reads-go-here and writes-go-there.
>
> But this has potential to turn into a great designfest. Are
> we going to leave 2.4 as-is? Please say no.
I'll second that.
Thank you for your work, Andrew!
-Dieter
--
Dieter Nützel
Graduate Student, Computer Science
University of Hamburg
Department of Computer Science
@home: Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de
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2001-11-28 1:31 ` Dieter Nützel [this message]
2001-11-28 2:13 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 2:34 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-28 2:48 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 20:21 ` Roger Larsson
2001-11-28 3:53 ` Dieter Nützel
2001-11-28 4:14 ` Robert Love
2001-11-28 19:42 Torrey Hoffman
2001-11-28 20:51 ` Dieter Nützel
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2001-11-28 18:56 Torrey Hoffman
2001-11-28 19:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 0:33 Torrey Hoffman
2001-11-28 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 18:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 19:38 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 9:56 willy tarreau
2001-11-27 10:57 ` Heinz Diehl
2001-11-26 22:02 Nathan G. Grennan
2001-11-26 22:17 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-26 23:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-11-27 0:05 ` Steve Lion
2001-11-27 9:12 ` Ahmed Masud
2001-11-27 17:12 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 20:31 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27 20:57 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 21:19 ` Martin Eriksson
2001-11-27 21:24 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-28 18:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 18:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 20:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 20:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-28 21:12 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 20:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 21:26 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-26 23:59 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-27 0:36 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 0:46 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-27 4:38 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27 4:45 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 1:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-27 4:34 ` GOTO Masanori
2001-11-26 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 7:42 ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-27 7:58 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27 8:01 ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-27 8:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 8:38 ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-26 22:44 ` Lincoln Dale
2001-11-27 0:44 ` Lost Logic
2001-11-27 0:57 ` Lost Logic
2001-11-27 3:49 ` Sean Elble
2001-11-27 3:56 ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-27 4:00 ` Sean Elble
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