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From: "Dieter Nützel" <Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de>
To: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
Cc: Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE:  Unresponiveness of 2.4.16
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:31:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011128013129Z281843-17408+21534@vger.kernel.org> (raw)

Andrew Morton wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> >
> > I agree that the current i/o scheduler has really bad interactive
> > performance -- at first sight your changes looks mostly like add-on
> > hacks though.
>
> Good hacks, or bad ones?

As I can "see" not so good.
I've tried "dbench 32" and playing an MP3 with Noatun (KDE-2.2.2) and  "saw" 
my reported hiccup since 2.4.7-ac4, as always.

Noatun stops after 9-10 seconds of the "dbench 32" run and then every few 
seconds, again and again. The hiccup take place more often but for shorter 
times then without your patch.

System was:

2.4.16 +
preempt +
lock-break-rml-2.4.16-1.patch +
all ReiserFS patches for 2.4.16

1 GHz Athlon II
MSI MS-6167 Rev 1.0B (AMD Irongate C4, without bypass)
640 MB PC100-2-2-2 SDRAM
U160 IBM 18 GB disk
AHA-2940 UW

> It keeps things localised.  It works.  It's tunable.  It's the best
> IO scheduler presently available.

Throughput was a little lower ;-)

Don't forget to tune max-readahead.
I've used 127 and that gave me 4 MB (at the end) to 6 MB (at the beginning of 
the disk) more transferrate.
Write caching is off per default on all of my disks and it didn't offer much 
gain with dbench and bonnie++.

> > Arjan's priority based scheme is more promising.
>
> If the IO priority becomes an attribute of the calling process
> then an approach like that has value.  For writes, the priority
> should be driven by VM pressure and it's probably simpler just
> to stick the priority into struct buffer_head -> struct request.
> For reads, the priority could just be scooped out of *current.

Yes, please. I think, too that we need IO priority even for "little" IO 
consuming (weak) RT tasks (MP3, DVD, etc).

> If we're not going to push the IO priority all the way down from
> userspace then you may as well keep the logic inside the elevator
> and just say reads-go-here and writes-go-there.
>
> But this has potential to turn into a great designfest.  Are
> we going to leave 2.4 as-is?  Please say no.  

I'll second that.

Thank you for your work, Andrew!

-Dieter
-- 
Dieter Nützel
Graduate Student, Computer Science

University of Hamburg
Department of Computer Science
@home: Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de

             reply	other threads:[~2001-11-28  1:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200111280353.fAS3rEB05638@zero.tech9.net>
2001-11-28  1:31 ` Dieter Nützel [this message]
2001-11-28  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28  2:34     ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-28  2:48       ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 20:21         ` Roger Larsson
2001-11-28  3:53       ` Dieter Nützel
2001-11-28  4:14       ` Robert Love
2001-11-28 19:42 Torrey Hoffman
2001-11-28 20:51 ` Dieter Nützel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-28 18:56 Torrey Hoffman
2001-11-28 19:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28  0:33 Torrey Hoffman
2001-11-28  0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 18:09   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 19:38     ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27  9:56 willy tarreau
2001-11-27 10:57 ` Heinz Diehl
2001-11-26 22:02 Nathan G. Grennan
2001-11-26 22:17 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-26 23:34   ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-11-27  0:05     ` Steve Lion
2001-11-27  9:12     ` Ahmed Masud
2001-11-27 17:12       ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 20:31         ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27 20:57           ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 21:19             ` Martin Eriksson
2001-11-27 21:24             ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-28 18:24             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 18:57               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 20:31               ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 20:56                 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-28 21:12                   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 20:04                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 21:26                       ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-26 23:59   ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-27  0:36     ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27  0:46       ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-27  4:38       ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27  4:45         ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27  1:45   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-27  4:34   ` GOTO Masanori
2001-11-26 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27  7:42   ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-27  7:58     ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27  8:01       ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-27  8:31     ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27  8:38       ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-26 22:44 ` Lincoln Dale
2001-11-27  0:44 ` Lost Logic
2001-11-27  0:57   ` Lost Logic
2001-11-27  3:49 ` Sean Elble
2001-11-27  3:56   ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-27  4:00     ` Sean Elble

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