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From: Abraham vd Merwe <abraham@2d3d.co.za>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.4.16 & OOM killer screw up (fwd)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:59:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011211155922.B1863@crystal.2d3d.co.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0112101705281.25362-100000@freak.distro.conectiva> <3C151F7B.44125B1@zip.com.au>, <3C151F7B.44125B1@zip.com.au>; <20011211011158.A4801@athlon.random> <3C15B0B3.1399043B@zip.com.au> <20011211144223.E4801@athlon.random>
In-Reply-To: <20011211144223.E4801@athlon.random>; from andrea@suse.de on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 14:42:23 +0100

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Hi Andrea!

> > > > In my swapless testing, I burnt HUGE amounts of CPU in flush_tlb_others().
> > > > So we're madly trying to swap pages out and finding that there's no swap
> > > > space.  I beleive that when we find there's no swap left we should move
> > > > the page onto the active list so we don't keep rescanning it pointlessly.
> > > 
> > > yes, however I think the swap-flood with no swap isn't a very
> > > interesting case to optimize.
> > 
> > Running swapless is a valid configuration, and the kernel is doing
> 
> I'm not saying it's not valid or non interesting.
> 
> It's the mix "I'm running out of memory and I'm swapless" that is the
> case not interesting to optimize.
> 
> If you're swapless it means you've enough memory and that you're not
> running out of swap. Otherwise _you_ (not the kernel) are wrong not
> having swap.

The problem is that your VM is unnecesarily eating up memory and then wants
swap. That is unacceptable. Having 90% of your memory in buffers/cache and
then the OOM killer kicks in because nothing is free is what we're moaning
about.

-- 

Regards
 Abraham

Did you hear about the model who sat on a broken bottle and cut a nice figure?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-11 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-10 19:08 Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-10 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-10 19:42   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-11  0:11   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11  7:07     ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-11 13:32       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-11 13:46         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12  8:44           ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-12  9:21             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12  9:45               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-12 10:09                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12  9:59               ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-12 10:15                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 13:42       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 13:59         ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-11 14:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 15:27             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-12 11:16               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12 20:03                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-12 21:25                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 13:59         ` Abraham vd Merwe [this message]
2001-12-11 14:01           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 17:30             ` Leigh Orf
2001-12-11 15:47         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-12-11 16:01           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-11 16:37           ` Hubert Mantel
2001-12-11 17:09           ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-11 17:28             ` Alan Cox
2001-12-11 17:22               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-11 17:23               ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-12 22:20                 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-13  8:47                   ` David S. Miller
2001-12-13 18:41                     ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-13  8:48                   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-13 10:22                     ` [OT] " Rob Landley
2001-12-12  8:39         ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-11  0:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 15:46   ` Luigi Genoni
2001-12-12 22:05   ` Ken Brownfield
2001-12-12 22:30     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12 23:23     ` Rik van Riel
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0112102004490.1352-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
2001-12-11 16:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-11 18:51   ` Rik van Riel

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