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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.4.16 & OOM killer screw up (fwd)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:27:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16DooZ-0001J4-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011211144223.E4801@athlon.random> <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0112111157410.4079-100000@imladris.surriel.com> <20011211152356.I4801@athlon.random>
In-Reply-To: <20011211152356.I4801@athlon.random>

On December 11, 2001 03:23 pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> As said I wrote some documentation on the VM for my last speech at the
> one of the most important italian linux events, it explains the basic
> design. It should be published on their webside as soon as I find the
> time to send them the slides. I can post a link once it will be online.

Why not also post the whole thing as an email, right here?

> It shoud allow non VM-developers to understand the logic behind the VM
> algorithm, but understanding those slides it's far from allowing anyone
> to hack the VM.

It's a start.

> I _totally_ agree with Linus when he said "real world is totally
> dominated by the implementation details".

Linus didn't say anything about not documenting the implementation details, 
nor did he say anything about not documenting in general.

> For developers the real freedom is the code, not the documentation and
> the code is there. And I think it's much easier to understand the
> current code (ok I'm biased, but still I believe for outsiders it's
> simpler).

Judging by the number of complaints, it's not easy enough.  I know that, 
personally, decoding your vm is something that's always on my 'things I could 
do if I didn't have a lot of other things to do' list.  So far, only Linus, 
Marcelo, Andrew and maybe Rik seem to have made the investment.  You'd have a 
lot more helpers by now if you gave just a little higher priority to 
documentation

--
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-11 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-10 19:08 Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-10 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-10 19:42   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-11  0:11   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11  7:07     ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-11 13:32       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-11 13:46         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12  8:44           ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-12  9:21             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12  9:45               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-12 10:09                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12  9:59               ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-12 10:15                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 13:42       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 13:59         ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-11 14:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 15:27             ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-12-12 11:16               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12 20:03                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-12 21:25                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 13:59         ` Abraham vd Merwe
2001-12-11 14:01           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 17:30             ` Leigh Orf
2001-12-11 15:47         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-12-11 16:01           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-11 16:37           ` Hubert Mantel
2001-12-11 17:09           ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-11 17:28             ` Alan Cox
2001-12-11 17:22               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-11 17:23               ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-12 22:20                 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-13  8:47                   ` David S. Miller
2001-12-13 18:41                     ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-13  8:48                   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-13 10:22                     ` [OT] " Rob Landley
2001-12-12  8:39         ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-11  0:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-11 15:46   ` Luigi Genoni
2001-12-12 22:05   ` Ken Brownfield
2001-12-12 22:30     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-12 23:23     ` Rik van Riel
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0112102004490.1352-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
2001-12-11 16:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-11 18:51   ` Rik van Riel

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