Re: [RFC] List of maintainers

Re: [RFC] List of maintainers

[Denis Vlasenko]

On 5 February 2002 08:57, you wrote:
> > This is first draft. I picked some names and addresses and made entried
> > for them.
> > If you want to be in this list, mail me your corrected entry. Please
> > indicate what kind of reports you wish to receive and what kind of
> > reports you DON'T want to see.
> >
> > If you don't want to be in this list, mail me too - I'll remove your
> > entry.
> >
> > This is the very first draft.
>
> Ok, here's my entry:
>
> Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@ucw.cz> [5 feb 2002]
> 	Input device drivers (drivers/input/*, drivers/char/joystick/*).
> 	Some USB drivers (printer, acm, catc, hid*, usbmouse, usbkbd, wacom).
> 	VIA IDE support.

I want these entries to sound like "Hey, I am working on these parts of the 
kernel, if you have something, send it to me not to Linus". With precise 
indication of those parts and your level of involvement:

Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@ucw.cz> [5 feb 2002]
	Feel free to send me bug reports and patches to input device drivers
	(drivers/input/*, drivers/char/joystick/*) and USB drivers
	(printer, acm, catc, hid*, usbmouse, usbkbd, wacom).
	Also CC me if you are posting VIA IDE driver related message
	(although I am not IDE subsystem maintainer).

Does this look right?
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Re: [RFC] List of maintainers

[Greg KH]

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:57:14PM -0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
> On 5 February 2002 08:57, you wrote:
> > > This is first draft. I picked some names and addresses and made entried
> > > for them.
> > > If you want to be in this list, mail me your corrected entry. Please
> > > indicate what kind of reports you wish to receive and what kind of
> > > reports you DON'T want to see.
> > >
> > > If you don't want to be in this list, mail me too - I'll remove your
> > > entry.
> > >
> > > This is the very first draft.
> >
> > Ok, here's my entry:
> >
> > Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@ucw.cz> [5 feb 2002]
> > 	Input device drivers (drivers/input/*, drivers/char/joystick/*).
> > 	Some USB drivers (printer, acm, catc, hid*, usbmouse, usbkbd, wacom).
> > 	VIA IDE support.
> 
> I want these entries to sound like "Hey, I am working on these parts of the 
> kernel, if you have something, send it to me not to Linus". With precise 
> indication of those parts and your level of involvement:

Um, isn't that what Vojtech said?  You just converted his response into
full sentances.

But I'm curious why you want to sort the list of maintainers by the
maintainer name.  Isn't the format of the current MAINTAINERS file much
nicer in that it's sorted by subsystem and driver type?  For if you want
to know who to send your USB Printer driver changes to, you just look
that up, instead of having to search through your file, which is ordered
in the other way.

So in short, why are you trying to do this?

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: [RFC] List of maintainers

[John Alvord]

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:00:37 -0800, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:

>On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:57:14PM -0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
>> On 5 February 2002 08:57, you wrote:
>> > > This is first draft. I picked some names and addresses and made entried
>> > > for them.
>> > > If you want to be in this list, mail me your corrected entry. Please
>> > > indicate what kind of reports you wish to receive and what kind of
>> > > reports you DON'T want to see.
>> > >
>> > > If you don't want to be in this list, mail me too - I'll remove your
>> > > entry.
>> > >
>> > > This is the very first draft.
>> >
>> > Ok, here's my entry:
>> >
>> > Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@ucw.cz> [5 feb 2002]
>> > 	Input device drivers (drivers/input/*, drivers/char/joystick/*).
>> > 	Some USB drivers (printer, acm, catc, hid*, usbmouse, usbkbd, wacom).
>> > 	VIA IDE support.
>> 
>> I want these entries to sound like "Hey, I am working on these parts of the 
>> kernel, if you have something, send it to me not to Linus". With precise 
>> indication of those parts and your level of involvement:
>
>Um, isn't that what Vojtech said?  You just converted his response into
>full sentances.
>
>But I'm curious why you want to sort the list of maintainers by the
>maintainer name.  Isn't the format of the current MAINTAINERS file much
>nicer in that it's sorted by subsystem and driver type?  For if you want
>to know who to send your USB Printer driver changes to, you just look
>that up, instead of having to search through your file, which is ordered
>in the other way.
>
>So in short, why are you trying to do this?
>
>thanks,
>
>greg k-h

Based on recent discussions, shouldn't we have Lieutenant listing
also???

john alvord

Re: [RFC] List of maintainers

[Denis Vlasenko]

On 5 February 2002 16:00, Greg KH wrote:
> > > Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@ucw.cz> [5 feb 2002]
> > > 	Input device drivers (drivers/input/*, drivers/char/joystick/*).
> > > 	Some USB drivers (printer, acm, catc, hid*, usbmouse, usbkbd, wacom).
> > > 	VIA IDE support.
> >
> > I want these entries to sound like "Hey, I am working on these parts of
> > the kernel, if you have something, send it to me not to Linus". With
> > precise indication of those parts and your level of involvement:
>
> Um, isn't that what Vojtech said?  You just converted his response into
> full sentances.

I am happy with his entry. "I want these entries...." was targeted mostly at
other entry makers.

> But I'm curious why you want to sort the list of maintainers by the
> maintainer name.  Isn't the format of the current MAINTAINERS file much
> nicer in that it's sorted by subsystem and driver type?  For if you want
> to know who to send your USB Printer driver changes to, you just look
> that up, instead of having to search through your file, which is ordered
> in the other way.

Hmm. Don't know how to do it best... reverse date sort clearly shows obsolete 
entries, I like it. Also people might like to see who is in the upper part of 
the list (i.e. who is active), I like it too.

> So in short, why are you trying to do this?

To improve lk development process. To help bug reports and patches reach
_relevant_ addresses. This is big problem now, big guys may ignore small 
fixes, fixes posted to lkml are likely to never even _reach_ big guys who 
don't read lkml (guess who :-). This confuse newcomers and J. Random Hackers.

I hope patchbot and dynamically updated maintainer list may help lk 
development scale better.
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vda