From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: bcrl@redhat.com (Benjamin LaHaise),
akpm@zip.com.au (Andrew Morton),
joeja@mindspring.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: faster boots?
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:38:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200204050538.g355c4v02240@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16tKI6-0007TJ-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Alan Cox writes:
> > I find that on heavily scsi systems: one machine spins each of 13 disks
> > up sequentially. This makes the initial boot take 3-5 minutes before
> > init even gets its foot in the door. If someone made a patch to spin
> > up scsi disks on the first access, I'd gladly give it a test. ;-)
>
> Ditto. Especially if it spun them down again when idle for a while.
Be careful here. I did this for a while with a Maxtor 80 GB IDE drive,
and after a few months, it started making unpleasant noises when
spinning up (lots of clicking and clacking). I went back to continuous
spinning. I'm not in the mood for replacing my drives every few
months :-(
> The scsi layer does several things serially it could parallelise. It
> isnt just disk spin up its also things like initialising all scsi
> controllers in parallel.
Indeed. However, the business of spin-up should be handled either in
the SCSI BIOS extension, or better yet, using auto-start delay. If the
kernel spins up all drives in parallel, in effect that means they all
spin up at the same time. Which in turn means that you have a large
current spike as all the motors start up, stressing the power supply
and possibly blowing your circuit breaker as 10 machines all come on
after the blackout...
Not spinning up at power on is supposed to avoid this very problem. So
spinning up in parallel might not be a brilliant idea. But if we could
put a few seconds between each spin-up command, that would make sense.
Still, auto-start delay is the best, IMO. 6*ID seconds after power up,
a drives spins up (ID is the SCSI ID). By the time you've finished the
BIOS memory test, most/all of your drives have been spun up.
Regards,
Richard....
Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
Current: rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-04-04 23:54 joeja
2002-04-05 0:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05 1:00 ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-04-05 0:26 ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-05 2:18 ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-05 2:51 ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-05 3:00 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-05 3:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05 5:38 ` Richard Gooch [this message]
2002-04-05 12:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05 16:33 ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-05 23:02 ` Itai Nahshon
2002-04-05 23:07 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-06 0:07 ` Itai Nahshon
2002-04-06 0:29 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-07 14:42 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-08 0:48 ` Itai Nahshon
2002-04-08 0:57 ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-08 1:14 ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-08 4:17 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-04-08 9:57 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-08 16:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-08 16:48 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-08 21:09 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-09 0:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-09 22:22 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-12 10:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-12 11:42 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-12 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-14 19:40 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-15 13:34 ` Philipp Matthias Hahn
2002-04-08 17:08 ` Mark Mielke
2002-04-08 17:49 ` Rene Rebe
2002-04-08 18:02 ` G . Sumner Hayes
2002-04-08 6:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-04-08 17:06 ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-08 16:13 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-08 15:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-08 17:32 ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-08 18:31 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-08 18:40 ` David Lang
2002-04-08 18:56 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-08 19:06 ` David Lang
2002-04-08 19:27 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-08 8:03 ` Helge Hafting
2002-04-08 12:38 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-04-08 14:41 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-08 9:55 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-08 12:15 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-04-08 12:09 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-04-05 6:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-04-05 12:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-05 13:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-05 21:33 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-05 5:26 ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-05 7:45 ` dean gaudet
2002-04-05 18:43 ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-04-05 0:44 ` Piotr Esden-Tempski
2002-04-05 13:37 ` Mauricio Nuñez
2002-04-05 1:11 ` Ross Vandegrift
2002-04-05 1:55 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-04-05 12:56 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-10 1:20 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-04-05 19:08 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-04-05 2:10 joeja
2002-04-05 7:44 ` Helge Hafting
2002-04-05 12:13 ` Thomas 'Dent' Mirlacher
2002-04-05 15:14 ` Luigi Genoni
2002-04-05 8:00 willy tarreau
2002-04-05 13:06 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-05 13:21 ` willy tarreau
2002-04-05 15:29 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-05 16:20 ` willy tarreau
2002-04-05 23:10 ` Itai Nahshon
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[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0204042330270.10358-100000@twinlark.arctic.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-04-05 8:41 ` Andi Kleen
2002-04-05 18:23 Torrey Hoffman
2002-04-06 17:53 Re: " Alan Cox
2002-04-06 19:01 ` Joe
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2002-04-07 20:10 ` Stevie O
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