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From: Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
To: viro@math.psu.edu, Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
Cc: mark@mark.mielke.cc, elladan@eskimo.com,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext2 and ext3 block reservations can be bypassed
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:29:33 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200205141929.OAA81537@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> (raw)

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> 
> On Tue, 14 May 2002, Jesse Pollard wrote:
>  
> > However, not all daemons run as root, but do log into /var/adm or /var/log.
> > If these fill up the log device without restraint, then your audit logs will
> > ALSO be affected (unless you have syslog send them to a different host).
> 
> syslogd _does_ run as root and it can happily overflow the damn thing,
> reserved blocks or not.
> 

Absolutely - and it should, since that IS the primary audit log daemon.

I don't consider that a "bug". Only if a "user" process (non-root, or
non-designated user) can exceed the set bounds, by either appending, or
filling in a hole, should there be a bug in the system.

Personally, I think ext2 works great. (And I DON'T count the time experimental
code with the warning "caution, may be hazardous to your filesystem" as
causing problems - I had expected it to.)

I've never had a problem with ext2, even when I did fill the filesystem.
I was able to log in and view the audit log, and clean up without
problems - exactly as I would expect.

It has been the most stable file system I've ever used (and I've used
quite a few - old Files-11 and Files-32, RT11, dos, UFS, UNICOS nc1, SGI
efs and xfs ...)

Easier fsck procedure than all of them. Fixed any inconsistancies as well
and didn't loose any resident files.

I've only lost one ext2fs - and that was due to a head crash. The drive
had been running for a couple of years continuously, with only a few
mis-guided reboots.

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Jesse I Pollard, II
Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil

Any opinions expressed are solely my own.

             reply	other threads:[~2002-05-14 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-14 19:29 Jesse Pollard [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-14 18:54 Jesse Pollard
2002-05-14 19:04 ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-14 19:55 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-14 18:07 Jesse Pollard
2002-05-14 18:00 Jesse Pollard
2002-05-14 17:53 Jesse Pollard
2002-05-14 18:23 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-14 19:11 ` Alexander Viro
     [not found] <791836807@toto.iv>
2002-05-12 22:04 ` Peter Chubb
2002-05-12 22:53   ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-13  4:22     ` Kasper Dupont
2002-05-13  4:51       ` Elladan
2002-05-12 16:23 Kasper Dupont
2002-05-12 16:42 ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-05-12 17:34   ` Elladan
2002-05-12 18:15     ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-12 18:37       ` Elladan
2002-05-12 19:02         ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-05-12 19:04           ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-13 17:09         ` Horst von Brand
2002-05-13 17:52           ` Elladan
2002-05-13 17:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-05-14 16:22               ` Elladan
2002-05-14 16:55                 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-14 17:47                   ` Elladan
2002-05-14 18:51                     ` Kasper Dupont
2002-05-15 19:48                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-15 20:29                   ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 15:40           ` Kasper Dupont
2002-05-14 15:56             ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-14 18:25               ` Kasper Dupont

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