From: jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: hd_geometry question.
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 03:50:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020702035036.E28771@pegasys.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF25B15FAC.FE67359D-ONC1256BEA.0032B6AA@de.ibm.com>; from schwidefsky@de.ibm.com on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 11:16:06AM +0200
On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 11:16:06AM +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
>
> >About a partition one wants to know start and length.
> >About a full disk one wants to know size, and perhaps a (fake) geometry.
> >
> >The vital partition data cannot depend on obscure hardware info.
> >So, the units used must be well-known. Earlier, everything was in
> >512-byte sectors, but there are a few places where that is inconvenient
> >or unnatural, and now that one has more than 2^32 sectors and 64 bits
> >are needed anyway, things are measured in bytes.
> >
> >That the start field comes with the HDIO_GETGEO ioctl and the size with
> >the BLKGETSIZE ioctl is due to history. Both are given in 512-byte sectors.
> >BLKGETSIZE64 gives bytes.
>
> Just to make sure I got that right, HDIO_GETGEO delivers a FAKE geometry
> based on the assumption that the sector size is 512 bytes ?
Fake because almost all non-removable disks made in the last
decade have not had a fixed number of sectors per track. If
the disk accepts positioning based on head,cylinder,sector
it has to be translated by the controller (the circuit board
attached to the drive) into a linear address and then into
the real h,c,s values.
Geometry info is mostly a relic from before zone recording
when filesystems were tuned for geometry and when drives
didn't accept linear addressing. Andre will probably come
back with a list of drives that still don't accept linear
addresses ;-).
More on this fakeness of geometry belongs offline as it is OT.
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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-02 9:16 Martin Schwidefsky
2002-07-02 10:50 ` jw schultz [this message]
2002-07-03 0:20 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-07-03 23:48 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-04 9:09 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-07-04 22:15 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-08 18:55 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-03 8:13 Martin Schwidefsky
2002-07-03 9:37 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-07-01 16:02 Martin Schwidefsky
2002-07-01 19:19 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-01 19:58 ` Andries Brouwer
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