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From: Andrew Rodland <arodland@noln.com>
To: Daniel Mose <imcol@unicyclist.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Alright, I give up.  What does the "i" in "inode" stand for?
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:16:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020724211642.360b040c.arodland@noln.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020725022454.A8711@unicyclist.com>

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 02:24:54 +0200
Daniel Mose <imcol@unicyclist.com> wrote:

> Rob Landley wrote:
> [snip]
> What bothers my self a bit more in the kernel context, and thus 
> makes me an even more eager "Kernel alienate" than I believe Rob
> to be, are the "atomic_" calls/functions and their semantic origin.
> I believe that every Unix has "atomic_" calls all though perhaps 
> differently designed. And I totally fail to understand why some 
> one decided to name theese functions "atomic_"
> 
> To my own thinking, the atomical parts of any process in a 
> computer are puny little switches that are mostly referred to as 
> bits, and theese bits have all the software support they can get 
> even with out any "atomic_" call. I don't find anything even 
> remotely close to an electron microscope within Unix either.
> So I fail. 

Well, this one is easy enough.
"Atomic" comes from the older-than-old meaning of the word, which is,
roughly, "unsplittable" or "undivisible". Whether it uses magical CPU
instructions, or just some sort of locking mechanism, an atomic
operation is one that cannot be observed, or interfered with, "half
done".

This has lots of uses with databases, and is a major requirement there
(and a basic database book will probably explain it better than I), but
it's a big thing when you're designing an SMP/preemptive/preemptible
kernel, too. :)

Hope I was enlightening and not just boring
--hobbs

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-25  1:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-18 22:33 Rob Landley
2002-07-19  4:38 ` Kelledin
2002-07-19  4:38 ` Larry McVoy
2002-07-19  4:45   ` CaT
2002-07-18 23:34     ` Rob Landley
2002-07-19  5:40       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-19  0:21         ` Rob Landley
2002-07-19 12:38           ` Kelledin
2002-07-19 13:09           ` Ryan Cumming
2002-07-19  7:00       ` dalecki
2002-07-19 19:58       ` Måns Rullgård
2002-07-19 20:17         ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-20  1:06           ` Kelsey Hudson
2002-07-26 14:15             ` [OT] Why Stallman says GNU/Linux (was Re: Alright, I give up. What does the "i" in "inode" stand for?) Rob Landley
2002-07-19 14:20   ` Alright, I give up. What does the "i" in "inode" stand for? yodaiken
2002-07-20 14:22     ` Georg Nikodym
2002-07-20 14:31       ` yodaiken
2002-07-22 13:10       ` Jesse Pollard
2002-07-20  6:01   ` John Kacur
2002-07-19  4:52 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-22 22:23 ` Joe DiMartino
2002-07-22 22:49 ` Hiten Pandya
2002-07-25  0:24 ` Daniel Mose
2002-07-25  1:16   ` Andrew Rodland [this message]
2002-07-25  2:43   ` jw schultz
2002-07-25  3:18     ` Christian Lavoie
2002-07-25  5:30       ` Ross Vandegrift
2002-07-25 11:08       ` Alan Cox
2002-07-25  6:03   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-26  8:24     ` jbradford
2002-07-28  9:01       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-04 15:11         ` Gert Menke
2002-07-26 12:54     ` Rob Landley
2002-07-25 18:06   ` Kevin Buhr
2002-07-26 23:39   ` Daniel Mose
2002-07-19  5:08 Mohamed Ghouse , Gurgaon
2002-07-19 13:21 Nicholas Berry
2002-07-19 13:32 Jesse Pollard
2002-07-30 20:07 ` Mark H. Wood
     [not found] <fa.m2aun2v.khulp2@ifi.uio.no>
2002-07-20  2:20 ` Kevin Buhr
2002-07-20  2:51 Kevin Puetz
2002-07-25 13:54 Jesse Pollard
2002-07-30 20:58 Jesse Pollard

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