From: Patrick Mansfield <patmans@us.ibm.com>
To: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Multi-path IO in 2.5/2.6 ?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:03:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020910090357.A7765@eng2.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020910130201.GO2992@marowsky-bree.de>; from lmb@suse.de on Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 03:02:01PM +0200
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 03:02:01PM +0200, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
> On 2002-09-09T11:40:26,
> With multipathing, you want the lower level to hand you the error
> _immediately_ if there is some way it could be related to a path failure and
> no automatic retries should take place - so you can immediately mark the path
> as faulty and go to another.
>
> However, on a "access beyond end of device" or a clear read error, failing a
> path is a rather stupid idea, but instead the error should go up immediately.
>
> This will need to be sorted regardless of the layer it is implemented in.
>
> How far has this been already addressed in 2.5 ?
>
The current scsi multi-path code handles the above cases. There is
a scsi_path_decide_disposition() that fails paths independent of the
result of the IO. It is similiar to the current scsi_decide_disposition,
except it also fails the path. So for a check condition of media error,
the IO might be marked as SUCCESS (meaning completed with an error),
but the path would not be modified (there are more details than this).
> For user-space reprobing of failed paths, it may be vital to expose the
> physical paths too. Then "reprobing" could be as simple as
>
> dd if=/dev/physical/path of=/dev/null count=1 && enable_path_again
>
Yes, that is a good idea, I was thinking that this should be done
via sg, and modify sg to allow path selection - so no matter what, sg
could be used to probe a path. I have no plans to expose a user level
device for each path, but a device model "file" could be exposed for
the state of each path, and its state controlled via driverfs.
> I dislike reprobing in kernel space, in particular using live requests as
> the LVM1 patch by IBM does it.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Lars Marowsky-Brée <lmb@suse.de>
-- Patrick Mansfield
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-10 15:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-09 14:57 James Bottomley
2002-09-09 16:56 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-09 17:34 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-09 18:40 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 13:02 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 16:03 ` Patrick Mansfield [this message]
2002-09-10 16:27 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 0:08 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 7:55 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-10 13:04 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 16:20 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 13:16 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 19:26 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-11 14:20 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-11 19:17 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-11 19:37 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-11 19:52 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-12 1:15 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-09-11 21:38 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-09-11 20:30 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-11 21:17 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 17:21 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 18:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 19:00 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 19:37 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-11 0:21 ` Neil Brown
[not found] <patmans@us.ibm.com>
2002-10-30 16:58 ` [PATCH] 2.5 current bk fix setting scsi queue depths Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-30 17:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-30 18:05 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-31 0:44 ` James Bottomley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-10 16:34 [RFC] Multi-path IO in 2.5/2.6 ? Cameron, Steve
2002-09-10 18:48 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-10 14:43 Cameron, Steve
2002-09-10 15:05 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-10 14:06 Cameron, Steve
2002-09-10 14:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-09 17:58 Ulrich Weigand
2002-09-09 10:49 Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-09 12:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-10 10:30 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
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