Kernel Probes - Is this the same as dynamic probes?

Kernel Probes - Is this the same as dynamic probes?

[Mike Grundy]

Hi Folks -

Rob posed the question in his merge candidate list. Kprobes is an api
for placing arbitrary break (probes) points in kernel code and provides
for handlers (your function) to execute before and after the probed 
instruction is executed. 

Dynamic probes on the other hand does the same thing ;-)

Vamsi and co. designed kprobes to provide the core of the dprobes
engine: probe point management and insertion, probe point interrupt
handler, and post interrupt clean up (replacing the original
instruction, single stepping it and then putting the probe back) in a
lightweight patch so that it would be more palitable for inclusion in
the kernel.

The next version of dprobes could use the api as well as any module
thrown together to debug a problem (without having to reboot).

Anyway getting back to my quip about dprobes doing the same thing,
dprobes can put probes in kernel or userland code, has a debug engine we
call the dprobes_interpreter that runs probe point handler programs (kind 
of pseudo assembler programs) that can change / record register values,
change / record memory locations, core the process or call LKCD and much
more.

kprobes doesn't have two things (IIRC) it needs to handle userland probe
points, I don't know if this was a planned addition or if Vamsi figured
out a way to handle it within the existing kprobes api.

dprobes has support for i386, s390, s390x, ppc and ppc64. kprobes has
i386 support right now, and after we review and beat upon the code I
posted to the dprobes list tonight, we'll have s390 and s390x support as
well.

Comments welcome.

Thanks
Mike

--
If we blow up, whatever's left of me is kicking your butt!

Re: Kernel Probes - Is this the same as dynamic probes?

[Suparna Bhattacharya]

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:58:48 +0530, Mike Grundy wrote:

> Hi Folks -
> 
> Rob posed the question in his merge candidate list. Kprobes is an api
> for placing arbitrary break (probes) points in kernel code and provides
> for handlers (your function) to execute before and after the probed
> instruction is executed.
> 
> Dynamic probes on the other hand does the same thing ;-)
> 
> Vamsi and co. designed kprobes to provide the core of the dprobes
> engine: probe point management and insertion, probe point interrupt
> handler, and post interrupt clean up (replacing the original
> instruction, single stepping it and then putting the probe back) in a
> lightweight patch so that it would be more palitable for inclusion in
> the kernel.
> 
> The next version of dprobes could use the api as well as any module
> thrown together to debug a problem (without having to reboot).
> 
> Anyway getting back to my quip about dprobes doing the same thing,
> dprobes can put probes in kernel or userland code, has a debug engine we
> call the dprobes_interpreter that runs probe point handler programs
> (kind of pseudo assembler programs) that can change / record register
> values, change / record memory locations, core the process or call LKCD
> and much more.
> 
> kprobes doesn't have two things (IIRC) it needs to handle userland probe
> points, I don't know if this was a planned addition or if Vamsi figured
> out a way to handle it within the existing kprobes api.

Yes there's a patch to add user space probes enablement to kprobes which
Vamsi should be posting shortly along with patches for watchpoint
support using debug registers (he'll be back in office later today). 

> 
> dprobes has support for i386, s390, s390x, ppc and ppc64. kprobes has
> i386 support right now, and after we review and beat upon the code I
> posted to the dprobes list tonight, we'll have s390 and s390x support as
> well.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Thanks
> Mike
> 
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Re: Kernel Probes - Is this the same as dynamic probes?

[Vamsi Krishna S .]

I have posted patches for supporting user space probes on top of
kprobes infrastructure some time back to lkml.
-- 
Vamsi Krishna S.
Linux Technology Center,
IBM Software Lab, Bangalore.
Ph: +91 80 5044959
Internet: vamsi@in.ibm.com