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* 2.5.44 io accounting weirdness, bi & bo swapped?
@ 2002-10-23 12:13 bert hubert
  2002-10-23 12:48 ` bert hubert
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: bert hubert @ 2002-10-23 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: riel, akpm, linux-kernel; +Cc: albert

It appears as if the kernel does its accounting wrong in some places. For
example, with procps 3.0.4, dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/100mb bs=1024
count=100000 causes large 'bi' readings:

$ vmstat 1
   procs                      memory      swap          io     system      cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in    cs us sy id
 0  0  0  14340   7356   2372 146784    4    2   332   290 1102   223  2 24 74
 0  0  0  14340   7344   2372 146784    0    0     0     0 1013    87  1  0 99
 0  0  0  14340   7332   2372 146784    0    0     0     0 1011   233  1  1 98
 2  0  1  14320   3932   2292 150428    0    0  5504   144 2104   333  3 65 32
 2  0  1  14320   4448   1772 150436    0    0  7208     0 1999    89  2 98  0
 3  0  3  14320   2812   1740 152060    0    0  8664    20 2541   372  4 87  9

However, mmapping a file and touching 100mb of pages does the following,
which looks sane:

$ vmstat 1
   procs                      memory      swap          io     system      cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in    cs us sy id
 0  0  0  14320   9956   1940 144660    0    0     0     0 1017   155  1  0 99
 1  0  1  14320   7972   1952 146560    0    0     0  1912 1279   277  2 53 45
 0  1  0  14320   4048   1744 150708    0    0   360  6024 1858   412  1 99  0
 1  0  1  14320   4096   1612 151020    0    0     0  5252 1741   338  2 98  0
 1  0  1  14320   3396   1612 151864    0    0     0  7144 2057   896  2 97  1
 1  0  1  14320   3696   1612 151644    0    0     0  7192 2087   982  1 99  0
 1  0  1  14320   3240   1548 152220    0    0     4  6940 2062   984  2 98  0
 0  0  0  14320   2472   1544 153072    0    0     0  7008 2059  1010  2 98  0
 0  0  0  14320   2464   1544 153072    0    0     0     0 1005    57  1  1 98

Interestingly, running sync then causes this, which does not look sane:

 0  0  0  14316   3792   1680 151688    0    0     0     0 1014   146  1  2 97
 3  0  3  14316   3572   1692 151696    0    0 10456    12 3510   260  2 65 33
 1  0  2  14316   3456   1700 151696    0    0 12516     0 2136   164  4 96  0
 2  0  2  14316   3452   1700 151696    0    0  6412     0 2983    66  3 97  0
 6  0  4  14316   3120   1700 151696    0    0 26152     0 6880    71  1 99  0
 1  0  1  14316   3488   1708 151704    0    0 14664    12 3859    94  2 98  0
11  0  5  14316   3112   1708 151704    0    0 29892     0 7747    28  1 99  0
 1  0  0  14316   3732   1728 151704    0    0    72     0 1049   176  1  4 95
 1  0  0  14316   3720   1728 151704    0    0     0     0 1068   172  1  0 99

This shown with 'vmloader':
vmloader> mmap /mnt/blah
mmap()ing 375000 pages (1500 mbytes). Done
vmloader> touch 100
Touching from mbyte 0 to 100, 25000 pages. Done
vmloader> quit
$ sync

http://ds9a.nl/vmloader-0.1.tar.gz

Regards,

bert

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* Re: 2.5.44 io accounting weirdness, bi & bo swapped?
  2002-10-23 12:13 2.5.44 io accounting weirdness, bi & bo swapped? bert hubert
@ 2002-10-23 12:48 ` bert hubert
  2002-10-23 14:56   ` Rik van Riel
  2002-10-23 22:25   ` Albert D. Cahalan
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: bert hubert @ 2002-10-23 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: riel, akpm, linux-kernel, albert

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:13:47PM +0200, bert hubert wrote:
> It appears as if the kernel does its accounting wrong in some places. For
> example, with procps 3.0.4, dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/100mb bs=1024
> count=100000 causes large 'bi' readings:

My bad. In this case, what I thought of as sane:

> However, mmapping a file and touching 100mb of pages does the following,
> which looks sane:
> 
>  r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in    cs us sy id
>  1  0  1  14320   7972   1952 146560    0    0     0  1912 1279   277  2 53 45

Is not. Touching a page entails reading it. In Albert's procps with 2.5.44,
bi and bo are reversed. Rik's vmstat does report things correctly.

Because I saw vmstat sometimes being right and sometimes being wrong, I
derived that is was the kernel that was at fault.

Perhaps Albert's procps isn't ready for 2.5.44?

Regards,

bert hubert

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* Re: 2.5.44 io accounting weirdness, bi & bo swapped?
  2002-10-23 12:48 ` bert hubert
@ 2002-10-23 14:56   ` Rik van Riel
  2002-10-23 22:25   ` Albert D. Cahalan
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Rik van Riel @ 2002-10-23 14:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bert hubert; +Cc: akpm, linux-kernel, albert

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, bert hubert wrote:

> Is not. Touching a page entails reading it. In Albert's procps with 2.5.44,
> bi and bo are reversed. Rik's vmstat does report things correctly.

> Perhaps Albert's procps isn't ready for 2.5.44?

I suspect it's just a simple typo somewhere. Maybe Albert can't
run 2.5 on his computer so he didn't get around to testing ?

Rik
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* Re: 2.5.44 io accounting weirdness, bi & bo swapped?
  2002-10-23 12:48 ` bert hubert
  2002-10-23 14:56   ` Rik van Riel
@ 2002-10-23 22:25   ` Albert D. Cahalan
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Albert D. Cahalan @ 2002-10-23 22:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bert hubert; +Cc: riel, akpm, linux-kernel, acahalan

bert hubert writes:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:13:47PM +0200, bert hubert wrote:

>> It appears as if the kernel does its accounting wrong in
>> some places. For example, with procps 3.0.4, dd if=/dev/zero
>> of=/mnt/100mb bs=1024 count=100000 causes large 'bi' readings:
>
> My bad. In this case, what I thought of as sane:
...
> Is not. Touching a page entails reading it. In Albert's procps
> with 2.5.44, bi and bo are reversed. Rik's vmstat does report
> things correctly.

That's fixed now. Rik's vmstat is not correct; according to his
documentation "bo" means "blocks in" and "bi" means "blocks out",
but that's not what his vmstat does. :-)

The only Linux vmstat that runs according to spec:

http://procps.sf.net/
http://procps.sf.net/procps-3.0.5.tar.gz

---------------- recent changes -----------------

procps-3.0.4 --> procps-3.0.5

top tolerates super-wide displays
better (?) RPM generation
XConsole and top.desktop removed
old build system removed
code cleanup
pgrep and pkill get "-o" (oldest matching process)
had vmstat "bi" and "bo" output interchanged on 2.5.xx
fix man page tbl directives
top man page cleaned up

procps-3.0.3 --> procps-3.0.4

make top go faster
Linux 2.2.xx ELF note warning removed
only show IO-wait on recent kernels
fix top's SMP stats
fix top for "dumb" and "vt510" terminals
in top, limit the priority values to -99 ... 99

procps-3.0.2 --> procps-3.0.3

more "make install" fixes
lib CFLAGS working again
top.1 codes fixed
bad (int*) cast in top removed
top runs faster
libproc memory corruption fixed
rant moved out of top.1 man page
ability to SKIP installing things
fixed ps --sort crash

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