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From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lkcd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	lkcd-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net,
	lkcd-general@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	"Matt D. Robinson" <yakker@aparity.com>
Subject: Re: [lkcd-devel] Re: What's left over.
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:39:35 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021031203935.Z1421@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFAA5C1DF6.DA161B71-ON80256C63.007D0F0E@portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>; from richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:47:41PM +0000

Richard J Moore wrote:
> and so do many people. In fact netdump, mcode and lkcd are all
> complementary parts of the same need.

It's the "complementary" that worries me. Once you have mcore, what
good are direct dumps to the network or the disk for ? With mcore,
the whole issue of accessing stable storage is eliminated.

I don't know if the approach of having multiple quasi-equivalent
means of storing a dump is something that Linus dislikes about
LKCD, but I think it might be worth exploring if LKCD's chance of
acceptance could be improved by focusing on a single but general
mechanism.

I think it would be a pity if we ended up not having crash dumps
in 2.6 only because they're over-featured ...

- Werner

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-31 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-31 22:47 Richard J Moore
2002-10-31 23:39 ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2002-11-05 12:45   ` Suparna Bhattacharya
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-02 10:36 Brad Hards
2002-11-02 19:28 ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-01 19:18 Linus Torvalds
2002-11-01 20:22 ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-02 13:02   ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-01  6:36 Linus Torvalds
2002-11-01  7:00 ` [lkcd-devel] " Castor Fu
2002-10-31 21:33 Rusty Russell
2002-11-01  1:19 ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-01  2:59   ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-31 20:59 Dave Anderson
2002-11-01  1:25 ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-31 20:22 Andreas Herrmann
2002-10-31 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 20:54   ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-10-31 21:08   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-31 22:04     ` Bernhard Kaindl
2002-11-01  0:33       ` Werner Almesberger
2002-10-31 18:17 Deepak Kumar Gupta, Noida
2002-10-31 17:25 Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 21:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-31 22:37   ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-05 11:42     ` [lkcd-devel] " Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-05 18:00       ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-05 18:36         ` Alan Cox
2002-11-05 19:19           ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-05 20:10             ` Alan Cox
2002-11-05 23:25               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-06  0:21             ` Andy Pfiffer
2002-11-06  1:10               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-06  1:37                 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-06  2:05                   ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-07  6:04                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-07 12:17                       ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-06  4:07                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06  4:47                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06 19:24                     ` Rob Landley
2002-11-10 18:35               ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-06  2:48           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06  4:29           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06  6:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-06  6:38               ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-06  7:48               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06  9:11                 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-06 22:05                 ` Michal Jaegermann
2002-11-06 16:13               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-07  8:50               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-07 15:44                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-09 23:05                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-09 23:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-10  1:37                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  2:12                         ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10  2:16                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  3:03                             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-10  3:23                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10 14:30                             ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10 16:56                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  3:17                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-10  4:26                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-11 18:03                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-09 23:39                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-11-10  2:58                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10 14:35                         ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10 18:13                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  1:31                     ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-10  3:10                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  3:30                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-10  3:49                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  3:49                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-10  2:08                     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10  2:18                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10 14:31                         ` Alan Cox
2002-11-07 15:48                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-08 18:01                 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-09 21:21         ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-11 16:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-31 15:46 Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 19:33 ` [lkcd-devel] " Castor Fu

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