From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>,
"Matthew D. Pitts" <mpitts@suite224.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: openbkweb-0.0
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:30:39 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030214153039.GB3188@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1045233701.7958.14.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:41:41PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 06:30, David Lang wrote:
> > Guys, Larry isn't saying that you are not allowed to BUY a copy of
> > bitkeeper and reeverse engineer it, he is saying that you are not allowed
> > to get the FREE copy of bitkeeper and reverse engineer it.
>
> What he says about this is not worth a sheeps fart. Most of the world
> allows reverse engineering for compatibility, full stop. Often not for
> cloning, so writing bk extracting tools is very different to cloning BK
First of all, we've carefully maintained SCCS compat to the extent that
these tools aren't needed. Thanks very much for acknowledging that it
was nice of us to do so, Alan.
Second of all, all of those reverse engineering clauses are dependent on
you having a legal copy of the software, full stop. You can't get a
legal copy if what you want to do, now or in the future, is to reverse
engineer the software.
Third of all, you could be right, I could be wrong, and I'm still right.
We give the software away for *free*. We *own* it. If it turns out that
people want to behave like little children and not play nice, no problem,
we'll promptly fork the tree and you are stuck with whatever version you
had at the point you decided to not play nice.
I'm more than a little disgusted by this thread and the attitude of some
in it. It's all well and good to whine about the BK license, but before
you do, how about quantifying the amount of good it has done for the
kernel development process over the last year? All sorts of people have
pointed out that things are going a lot better, perhaps you want to take
that into consideration before you decide to yank this particular chain.
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-14 15:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-06 2:10 openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-06 2:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 Dave Jones
2003-02-06 3:09 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06 4:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Ben Collins
2003-02-06 4:37 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06 6:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 Willy Tarreau
2003-02-06 6:14 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-06 14:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-13 2:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-13 11:55 ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-13 16:13 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 16:46 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-13 21:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-13 21:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Robert Love
2003-02-14 12:59 ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 22:05 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 22:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 6:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14 6:30 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-14 14:41 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 13:54 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14 15:30 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2003-02-14 15:45 ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-14 16:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 16:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 16:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 17:09 ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 17:24 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 11:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 14:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Walrond
[not found] ` <1045342539.5130.5.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>
[not found] ` <3E4F7E20.30905@walrond.org>
2003-02-16 20:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 20:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 21:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:48 ` ADSL vs Leased line (was: Re: openbkweb-0.0) John Bradford
2003-02-17 10:13 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 11:00 ` John Bradford
2003-02-17 11:46 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 12:00 ` John Bradford
2003-02-15 0:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 0:52 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 0:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 1:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 1:01 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 2:00 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 2:41 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 3:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 3:30 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 5:00 ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15 5:32 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 7:24 ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15 6:20 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 7:27 ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15 2:13 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 8:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:17 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-14 20:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 22:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 Thomas Molina
2003-02-15 0:39 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 16:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-15 21:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 9:57 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-19 10:43 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 10:51 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-16 21:03 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-19 9:54 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-14 23:45 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 23:57 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 0:45 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 1:05 ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 1:13 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 1:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 1:29 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 1:40 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 1:35 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 7:36 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-15 9:46 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 11:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 11:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:07 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-15 16:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:10 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 16:58 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-16 20:26 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Jasen
2003-02-18 17:41 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 17:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 18:12 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 20:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 20:54 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 4:08 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16 5:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-16 5:35 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16 22:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-17 4:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-17 14:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-18 22:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 8:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-19 15:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Paul Fulghum
2003-02-19 15:16 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-19 15:28 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-19 15:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 21:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 21:52 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 22:04 ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 22:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-15 22:24 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Morton
2003-02-15 22:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 0:15 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matt Reppert
2003-02-16 0:46 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 0:55 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 3:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 5:22 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-16 11:08 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:22 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Woodhouse
2003-02-16 11:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 9:58 ` openbkweb-0.0 Filip Van Raemdonck
2003-02-16 14:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Gaël Le Mignot
2003-02-16 16:27 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-16 22:56 ` bk2cvs [was Re: openbkweb-0.0] Pavel Machek
2003-02-18 0:19 ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-18 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2003-02-18 17:19 ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-14 20:28 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 20:35 ` openbkweb-0.0 nick
2003-02-15 0:17 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 19:12 openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-02-15 20:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-16 10:36 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot
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